Talk:Clover Point

A fact from Clover Point appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 27 July 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that untreated sewage was dumped directly into the ocean from Clover Point (pictured) until 2020?

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Sewage

Note to self, read these possible sources later: [1][2][3][4]. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 08:08, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Bruxton talk 15:48, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pedestrian view of Clover Point

... that untreated sewage was dumped directly into the ocean from Clover Point (pictured) until 2020?

Source: https://www.timescolonist.com/islander/the-road-to-sewage-treatment-a-timeline-5155326

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Created by Clovermoss (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 18:45, 7 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

New article of good length. Sources look fine and I didn't find any copyright issues. The hook is interesting and short. The picture is freely licensed and works in a small format. Third nomination, so QPQ is not needed. Seems like everything is good and ready to go, well done! Ffranc (talk) 11:53, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Units of measurement

Hello Clovermoss Take a look at the Manual of Style Units of measurement/Unit choice and order. MOS:Unit where it states that other than the US and the UK, "In all other articles, the primary units chosen will be SI units". Avi8tor (talk) 04:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could you expand on what you mean here, Avi8tor? Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 04:41, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you're talking about the usage of acre, I did that because that was the measurement the given source used (CBC News) and I'm not particularly great at converting units. I see that another editor found a template to provide such information. Or are you implying that the order of such information should per swapped per MOS:UNIT? Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 04:46, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Noting that the article on acre also states The acre is used in many established and former Commonwealth of Nations countries by custom and is is a unit of land area used in the British imperial and the United States customary systems. I'm not sure if this is actually in conflict with MOS:UNIT? It's entirely possible I could be wrong, which is why I was asking you to clarify. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 04:53, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Manual of style is not really interested in what sources say because they can be cherry picked, but they do want a source. I believe this is why the MOS states "shall be SI" except the US and UK (which is mess). Probably because that's what the Canadian law states. I can change it for you with a convert template. The reason I write is because it's your article and I didn't want to step on your toes. No one knows everything in the MOS. Avi8tor (talk) 11:41, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify, the primary unit should be SI, the source can be a non SI unit with display equals flip. Avi8tor (talk) 12:08, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Avi8tor: I was also confused about whether an acre is actually an SI measurement or not. Google wasn't very helpful when I tried to figure this out. I'm more familiar with kgs vs lbs than I am with other units. Anyways, I don't own the article and people are free to make improvements. I'm just concerned that your recent edit might cause the same issue that was fixed here? Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 14:41, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

clovermoss The SI unit for Area is the square metre (m2), a hectare is the SI equivalent to an acre for larger areas, measuring 100 m by 100 m which gives 10000 m2. The SI page or the acre would give you the answer to your question. Avi8tor (talk) 14:56, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did read the article earlier but missed the "SI conversion" field in the infobox. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 14:58, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]