Talk:Clotilde Courau

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Actors and Filmmakers / Royalty and Nobility

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Royalty and Nobility.

France

	France portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject France, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of France on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.FranceWikipedia:WikiProject FranceTemplate:WikiProject FranceFrance articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Women's History

	History portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women's History, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Women's history and related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Women's HistoryWikipedia:WikiProject Women's HistoryTemplate:WikiProject Women's HistoryWomen's History articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Italy

	Italy portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Italy, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Italy on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ItalyWikipedia:WikiProject ItalyTemplate:WikiProject ItalyItaly articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Prince and Princess of Venice's daughters

Since the abolition of the monarchy in Italy, I'm wondering about the opportunity of naming the couple's daughters as princesses. What do you think about this?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.19.79.129 (talk) 01:12, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While they may not legally be titled as princesses, there is no law banning the style of princess. The Prince of Venice's daughters are styled as princesses of Savoy. Think of it more as a name than as a title. As long as monarchies have been abolished formerly reigning families have been accorded some of the titles they would have held if reigning. Also, next time you post on a talk page, please sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~). Charles 01:15, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for answering. Regarding the "style", I don't understand what you mean. Furthermore, I can't "think of it as a name", since there is a history that speaks out very clearly to us. Can you hear it? Regards. 79.19.75.250 (talk) 00:03, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A style is a manner of address, they don't have to exist as legal titles. Furthermore, titles in Italy are not illegal and even if they were, they are known by their titles outside of Italy as well. Charles 01:50, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

titles aren't illegal (maybe), but anti-historical. 79.32.72.240 (talk) 19:09, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would argue that abolishing a monarchy, an established form of government, is "anti-historical", but our personal opinions are completely irrelevant. Charles 19:15, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you check this voice (regarding Clotilde) in the Italian or in the French Wikipedia, you can see that she isn't named as a princess. So only the English one is anti-historical. I will propose to modify this page. 79.32.72.240 (talk) 19:20, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We aren't French or Italian Wikipedia, sorry. Charles 20:36, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Personal question irrelevant to article topic

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Are you English, Charles? 79.8.75.2 (talk) 21:25, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That question is entirely irrelevant and has no bearing on the content here. Charles 21:27, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that it is pivotal ... 79.8.75.2 (talk) 21:37, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And think of it as not getting an answer. Charles 22:51, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Now that Charles seems to have left and taken the bee in his bonnet with him, perhaps someone can change the article's name to 'Clotilde Courau'? 41.241.49.111 (talk) 15:55, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed! It is ridiculous to have this article be under a title that no longer exists. The article should be under "Clotilde Courau" with a reference in the text to her supposed title. Jabalong —Preceding undated comment added 23:55, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

NAME

Can we decided whether she's called Clothilde or Clotilde, since the article calls her both? There's something called an official site which calls her Clotilde but it (the site) seems to have no content.Campolongo (talk) 16:53, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How can one be a Princess in a republic?

This article is clearly outdated. Monarchy was abolished 68 years ago. And there are no princesses without realm. --Pavlovič (talk) 21:02, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 31 January 2015

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved. Number 5 7 13:08, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Clotilde, Princess of Venice and Piedmont → Clotilde Courau – Grace Kelly is not called "Grace, Princess of Monaco" although she actually reigned. Clotilde Courau is NOT even reigning, so she must be called by her maiden name. Qyre (talk) 12:48, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Clothilde is best known as an award-winning actress, and only secondarily as the consort of Emanuele Filiberto, Prince of Venice and Piedmont, son of a pretender to the Italian throne. (The reference to Grace Kelly is, however, incorrect: she is so styled on Wikipedia because she is the deceased consort of a sovereign. If she were still living, her article would still be at Grace, Princess of Monaco like the dynastic wives of all other reigning (monogamous) monarchs, per NCROY). FactStraight (talk) 19:46, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.