Talk:Clothing in ancient Egypt

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Article merged: See old talk-page here Anidaane (talk) 11:11, 28 April 2011 (UTC)Anidaane[reply]

Older children's clothing

It is probable that children didn't generally wear clothing until 6 or so, though there may have been exceptions. The statement that when they grew up, they wore the same clothes as their parents is rather meaningless, since when grown, up they are adults. However what did they wear between 6 and puberty? I suspect it was not the same as adults.119.224.100.246 (talk) 19:46, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ancient_Egypt#Daily_life provides a discrepancy to this age:

"Children went without clothing until maturity, at about age 12 to 13, "

The TourEgypt source we currently use for this paragraph says:

"From what we know from paintings and statues, kids both boys and girls mostly ran around naked until puberty."

Therefore in the absence of a supporting reference, we should change this to puberty (or age 12, if someone can check the source given for that number). Skingski (talk) 18:09, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Costumes and jewelry

This page on Ancient Egyptian dance has a section on costumes, hairstyles and wigs worn by dancers that is not addressed here. It also provides specific examples of jewelry that is not listed in this article. It seems that this should be in the present article in more detail. Skingski (talk) 17:36, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Contradictions

The paragraph 'Peasants, workers and other people of modest condition often wore nothing, but the shenti (made of flax) was worn by all people. Slaves often worked naked.' is self-contradictory. If 'all people' wore the shenti, they weren't naked or 'wearing nothing'. Or were slaves and low-rank persons not 'people'? PhilUK (talk) 11:44, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That reference for that paragraph also doesn't list 'peasant', 'shenti', 'flax', 'slave', or 'naked'. I think the paragraph should be removed unless another reliable source can be found.

00:41, 3 December 2023 (UTC) 71.218.83.204 (talk) 00:41, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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From about 2130 BC during the Old Kingdom, garments were simple. The men wore wrap around skirts known as the shendyt, which were belted at the waist, sometimes pleated or gathered in the front. During this time, men's skirts were short. As the Middle Kingdom of Egypt (1600 BC)came, the skirt was worn longer. Then, around 1420 BC, there was a light tunic or blouse with sleeves, as well as a pleated petticoat.

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From about 2130 BC during the Old Kingdom, garments were simply constructed. Men wore wrap around skirts which were belted at the waist. This style of dress was consistent across class but higher class Egyptians wore more finely crafted pieces ^[1].

While women's clothing changed during the Middle Kingdom, men's clothing stayed largely static (as evidenced by available art). The two most notable changes were the pleating of the skirts and the adoption of the triangular apron by upper class men. This starched ornamented kilt was held up by a sash and worn over a loincloth^[2].

Artistic relics from the New Kingdom show the largest evolution in mens’ clothing. New Kingdom art depicts the use of sheer blouses with intricately pleated sleeves, as well as more elaborate pleating of the skirts, which themselves had sheer overskirts^[3]. Still, only wealthier citizens could afford these materials^[4]. Danielfromschool (talk) 01:27, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done @Danielfromschool: Thanks for this great suggestion. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 19:14, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Black, J. Anderson (1980). A History of Fashion. New York: Morrow. ISBN 0688058353. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)
^ Pendergast, Sara (2003–2004). Fashion, Costume, and Culture: Clothing, Headwear, Body Decorations, and Footwear Through the ages. Detroit: UXL. ISBN 0787654175. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)CS1 maint: date format (link)
^ Strudwick, Helen (2006). Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt. London: Sterling Publishing. ISBN 1782744363. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)
^ "Length of Very Sheer Linen Cloth". www.metmuseum.org. The Metropolitan Museum of Art. Retrieved 5 May 2021.

Reference no longer on-line

Reference 8: "Ancient Egypt: Clothing. Reshafim.org.il. Retrieved on 2012-05-05." is no longer available on-line. An archived version is available at https://web.archive.org/web/20120511200017/http://www.reshafim.org.il:80/ad/egypt/timelines/topics/clothing.htm - issue: "The length of the dress denoted the social class of the wearer." cannot be found at that archived version. BaumTanneN (talk) 13:44, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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In the women section, the two paragraphs repeat the same thing in different words with only one or two lines of new information. I recommend putting it like this instead: 'During the Old, Middle and New Kingdom, ancient Egyptian women mostly wore a simple sheath dress called a kalasiris[8], which is shown to cover the breasts in statues, but in paintings and relief the single breast depicted in profile is exposed[11]. Women's clothing in ancient Egypt was more conservative than men's clothing. The dresses were held up by one or two straps and were worn down to the ankle, while the upper edge could be worn above or below the breasts. The length of the dress denoted the social class of the wearer.[9] Beading or feathers were also used as an embellishment on the dress.[10] Over the dress, women had a choice of wearing shawls, capes, or robes. The shawl was a piece of fine linen cloth around 4 feet wide by 13 or 14 feet long, which was mostly worn pleated. Surviving dresses consist of a body made from a tube of material sewn up one side, supported not by straps but by a bodice with sleeves. In contrast to dresses shown in art, such linen garments tend to be baggy, and would conceal rather than reveal the body. It was made of linen, a material that tends to sag but is shown to hug the body with no slag. [11]' Thank you! Valley'softhelily (talk) 11:24, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Partly done: With formatting changes. Lightoil (talk) 12:15, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Black, J. Anderson (1980). A History of Fashion. New York: Morrow. ISBN 0688058353. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)

[2] Pendergast, Sara (2003–2004). Fashion, Costume, and Culture: Clothing, Headwear, Body Decorations, and Footwear Through the ages. Detroit: UXL. ISBN 0787654175. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)CS1 maint: date format (link)

[3] Strudwick, Helen (2006). Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt. London: Sterling Publishing. ISBN 1782744363. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)

[4] "Length of Very Sheer Linen Cloth". www.metmuseum.org. The Metropolitan Museum of Art. Retrieved 5 May 2021.

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