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Remove biases

Remove words like "Disproven" baselessly, as they are extremely biased. Also, remove quotes around "Suspicious" as they remove the nuetral tone that wikipedia is supposed to have. SgtSalmon (talk) 20:31, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Disproven is well cited. I don't see suspicious in the article in scare quotes. O3000, Ret. (talk) 20:45, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) "Bias" refers to editorial (i.e., us) bias, which we avoid by sticking with the WP:RS. The three citations on "disproven" say "baseless" and "debunked". Removing the word "disproven" (other than replacing it with "baseless" or "debunked") would be adding bias by leaving out important neutral information. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:46, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gotcha. Where’s a place I can read these policies? Also, disproven seems to be the most neutral of those options. SgtSalmon (talk) 22:57, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Andy Stewart

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Andy_Stewart - Andy Stewart died suddenly on April 7, 2020 as Maria Farmer’s (a victim of Epstein's sex trafficing) lawyers were seeking to subpoena him for information on the Epstein case. https://holrmagazine.com/who-is-andy-stewart-jeffrey-epstein-list-leaked/ more into "conspiracy theories" site: http://abeldanger.blogspot.com/2020/05/holy-grail-of-epstein-case-did-mega.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.178.151.141 (talk) 22:01, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look pretty bad, and they don't appear to connect Stewart's death to the Clintons anyway. Squeakachu (talk) 22:11, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This is the suggested change, remove "baseless": The Clinton body count is a baseless conspiracy theory centered around the belief that former U.S. to return the line to the previous version: The Clinton body count is a conspiracy theory centered around the belief that former U.S.

The Clinton body count is a baseless conspiracy theory centered around the belief that former U.S. President Bill Clinton and his wife, former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, have secretly had their political opponents murdered, often made to look like suicides, totaling as many as 50 or more listed victims.^[1]^[2]^[3] The Congressional Record (1994) stated that the compiler of the original list, Linda Thompson, admitted she had "'no direct evidence' of Clinton killing anyone. Indeed, she says the deaths were probably caused by 'people trying to control the president' but refuses to say who they were."^[4] 146.200.136.91 (talk) 12:27, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done The wording of the lead should be discussed here and a consensus arrived at- it seems to have been in dispute. 331dot (talk) 12:30, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Nelson, Lars-Erik (January 4, 1999). "Conspiracy Nuts Hit New Low With The Body Count". New York Daily News. Archived from the original on September 30, 2020. Retrieved January 20, 2015.
^ Marcotte, Amanda (August 29, 2016). "The Clinton BS Files: "Lock her up" isn't really about emails – the right's been accusing the Clintons of murder for decades". Salon. Archived from the original on January 3, 2020. Retrieved August 7, 2017.
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[1] Nelson, Lars-Erik (January 4, 1999). "Conspiracy Nuts Hit New Low With The Body Count". New York Daily News. Archived from the original on September 30, 2020. Retrieved January 20, 2015.

[2] Marcotte, Amanda (August 29, 2016). "The Clinton BS Files: "Lock her up" isn't really about emails – the right's been accusing the Clintons of murder for decades". Salon. Archived from the original on January 3, 2020. Retrieved August 7, 2017.

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