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A fact from Claude Batchelor appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 31 August 2019 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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- The AP once called a phone they thought might've been his and no one answered. It was later disconnected.
Yeah, there's a source for it but who cares? They weren't even certain it was his phone even after getting the answering machine which presumably had someone's voice and/or name. — LlywelynII 11:01, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
- That makes sense to me, LlywelynII. Since no one else has really edited this article I've gone ahead and WP:BOLD removed it. Chetsford (talk) 14:38, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:19, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
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... that during Claude Batchelor's trial on charges of collaboration, psychiatrist Leon Freedman testified that the American soldier had been brainwashed by his Chinese captors into believing he was the "savior of humanity"?
*ALT-1: ... that Claude Batchelor, a trumpet player with the 1st Cavalry Division Band, was convicted on charges related to collaboration with China during the Korean War?- ALT-2: ... that Claude Batchelor, a former trumpet player with the 1st Cavalry Division Band, was convicted on charges related to collaboration with China during the Korean War?
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Created by Chetsford (talk). Self-nominated at 06:17, 15 August 2019 (UTC).
On it. — LlywelynII 10:36, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
- New enough; long enough (~6.2k elig. chars.); BLP applies and, while sources like the US Senate are not necessarily unbiased, they are RS for at least official US versions of events and can be supplemented later if rival RSs offer different spins; some things (AP once called a phone number that they weren't certain was his and no one answered &c.) seem needless but that's not an issue for DYK really; Earwig finds minimal copyvio; the current hook is too long (~220 chars.) and unsupported ("a potential X" ≠ "the X") and QPQ needed. — LlywelynII 10:51, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
@Chetsford: Hullo? — LlywelynII 02:23, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
- LlywelynII - my apologies for the delay. Updated above. Chetsford (talk) 03:33, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Chetsford: It's ok, just checking. QPQ done and hook short enough, so that's good. I wouldn't've minded a rephrasing: sth like the original hook or sth about his having originally refused to return to the US seem like the most interesting things here. With the entirely new hook, the problem is my reading of the article is that he wasn't a trumpet player any more: he'd been moved to the active fighters prior to his capture. Is that wrong? The hook ("former...") or article might need to be rewritten a bit to make it clearer. — LlywelynII 15:31, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
- That's a great catch. What about Alt 2? Chetsford (talk) 18:14, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
- Yup. G2G w/ALT 2. — LlywelynII 19:03, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
- New enough; long enough (~6.2k elig. chars.); BLP applies and, while sources like the US Senate are not necessarily unbiased, they are RS for at least official US versions of events and can be supplemented later if rival RSs offer different spins; some things (AP once called a phone number that they weren't certain was his and no one answered &c.) seem needless but that's not an issue for DYK really; Earwig finds minimal copyvio; the current hook is too long (~220 chars.) and unsupported ("a potential X" ≠ "the X") and QPQ needed. — LlywelynII 10:51, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
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