Talk:Class-size reduction

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Balance

The introduction notes that there is argument over whether reduced class size benefits teaching, and states that some say it does not. Yet the only sources referred to support the idea. Evidence to the contrary should also be cited.101.98.175.68 (talk) 05:02, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

The point is that the current WP:SECONDARY research reviews have discarded that point of view, so it doesn't have enough WP:WEIGHT to be included. See the paragraph beginning "Subsequent research" Step Three Profit (talk) 05:18, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Does something that is largely considered common conjecture still need to be provided such specific citation?RanaYoyo (talk) 23:10, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

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Overrepresented Viewpoints

The contributions of Dr. Eric Hanushek to the study of the economics of education are underrepresented. In more recent years, Hanushek has defended his work in "Money Might Matter Somewhere", in which he argues that the amount of money spent per pupil is not as important a factor towards student achievement in as much as how the money is spent per pupil. In other words, Hanushek puts forth the idea that giving students $10,000 worth of pens and pencils would not produce the same effect on their overall student achievement as would a $10,000 investment into teacher training and development. The current article provides evidence supporting the Kreuger side of the debate (which disagrees with Hanushek) but does not provide equal evidence for the Hanushek side.

Furthermore, the article references "early schooling" multiple times, but does not explain what grades this encompasses until much later on. According to the Center for Public Education, the early years of schooling can be defined as K-3. This should be noted earlier on.

Finally, this article on class-size reductions, which focuses heavily on interpreting the impacts of STAR, fails to mention "How Does Your Kindergarten Classroom Affect Your Earnings?" paper, published by Raj Chetty, John N. Friedman, Nathaniel Hilger, Emmanuel Saez, Diane Whitmore Schanzenbach, and Danny Yagan in 2011 by Harvard University. This paper studies the average wage earnings of students who participated in STAR by linking the data from the experiment to IRS records 26 years later. One of the main findings of this research is that class size does not have a significant effect on earnings by age 27. However, it should be noted that the authors do not consider their evidence to be entirely conclusive, and should thus be discounted. One valid finding, though, was that the students who were put into smaller classes were more likely to attend college.

Lenind96 (talk) 06:04, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Citation Issue:

In the article, the final sentence, which claims that "Some successes of the current charter school movement has been attributed to their generally smaller class sizes", is cited with a link to a Stanford article regarding class sizes. In reading this article, the only mention of class size is that charter schools tend to have smaller class sizes compared to other schools. The article does not claim that, because of these smaller class sizes, charter schools are more successful. Thus, the sentence makes a claim that is not fully supported and this should be removed or improved.

Lenind96 (talk) 06:03, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

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Merger proposal

I propose to merge Class-size reduction into Class size. I think that the content in the Class-size reduction article can easily be explained in the context of Class size, and the Class size article is of a reasonable size that the merging will not cause any problems as far as article size is concerned. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 16:06, 23 February 2020 (UTC)