Talk:Clan Wallace

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Clan Wallace

Seen as there is actually a Clan wallace it deserves a page. Although there does not seem to be much info available of than that of William Wallace.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.137.109.177 (talk • contribs) 29 June 2006

Clan Wallace is a concept invented in the 19th - or at best 18th century. As a lowland family the Wallaces were never a Clan.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.164.75 (talk • contribs) 19 February 2007

Note: clan and family mean exactly the same thing.--Celtus (talk) 06:25, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In support of your coment Celtus, I think it needs sorting out and confirmation that the Lowlanders did live in "clans" as well. Some have got it into their heads that the Lowlanders didn't call themselves clans until after King George IV's visit to Edinburgh in 1822. This is incorrect.QuintusPetillius (talk) 17:38, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Clan Wallace page

Yes, I am the Web Master for the Clan Wallace Society Worldwide - [1]. I am being very careful to distinguish the difference between the generic "Clan Wallace" and the group of over 1200 people belonging to the "[Clan Wallace Society (Worldwide)|http://www.clanwallace.org]."

This latest posting that defines "Clan Wallace" is not a advertizement for the "Clan Wallace Society". It is just a description of the group of people that go by the name of Wallace. "Clan" Wallace is a mis-nomer as the group of people going by the name of Wallace were NOT a Clan but a Family. Clans were a group of people from the Highlands of Scotland. Wallace was a Family name whose people lived in the Strathclyde area of the Lowlands of Scotland.

All images I have posted of badges and tartans attributed to Clan Wallace are NOT copywrited. The badges and tartans can be bought and used by ANYONE at any of many shops selling Scottish attire all over the world.

One reason I've edited the original Clan Wallace entry in Wiki was due to the inaccurices. These were making reference to a group of people that were extras in the film Braveheart. They orginally called themselves "The Wallace Clan." They were not recognized by the clan Wallace Chief, of that Ilk. When they started referring to themselves as "Clan Wallace," the Chief, of that Ilk, and the "Clan Wallace Society (Worldwide)" took exception. The [CWSW Society|http://www.clanwallace.org] has been recognized by the Chief as his official body since its inception and incorporation in Texas in 1966.

Any further discussion can be directed to me Jim Wallace or mailto:webmaster@clanwallace.org or the Clan Wallace Society President, Robert Bruce Wallace - mailto:president@clanwallace.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.163.243.66 (talk • contribs) 17 June 2010

How can they be from both Normandie and Wales?

Just asking.

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The idea is that they could have been "Welshmen" who came to Scotland with the Normans.QuintusPetillius (talk) 10:45, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

85.166.162.202 (talk) 07:28, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Strathclyde (lit. "Strath of the River Clyde"), originally Cumbric: Ystrad Clud or Alclud, was one of the early medieval kingdoms of the 'Britons' (AKA 'Welsh') in Hen Ogledd ("the Old North"), the Brittonic-speaking parts of what is now southern Scotland and northern England. The language of Strathclyde, and that of the Britons in surrounding areas was known as Cumbric, a dialect or language closely related to modern Welsh. The peoples of what became Strathclyde were for a long time known as 'Welsh' within the kingdom of Scotland. Cassandrathesceptic (talk) 14:54, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"... current chief..."

This article dates back to the previous chief (Ian) so the section on Septs needs to be updated. At the time it was written, Was the current chief then Ian or Andrew? Since it is not clear it needs to be addressed. Right now I am having to leave but I will try to remember to come back and see if I can find out. MagnoliaSouth ^(talk) 20:30, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

UPDATE: I have found the likely page this information came from and it is equally as vague. The snapshot in the link is what the page looks like as I write this, but the page's location is here. It appears that the section is almost a word-for-word copy which still may be a copyright violation. It does differ slightly so for at least now, I will ignore that. Either way, I have emailed the website asking for clarification. If I get an answer, I'll post back. MagnoliaSouth ^(talk) 21:39, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]