Talk:Clan MacFarlane

" Descended from the ancient Earls of Lennox," (R1B1) Yet mostly "Vikings" (I)

There seems to be conflation here between on the one handClan MacFarlane (what they* term Viking male lineages, mostly haplogroup-I, a minority in Scotland); and on the other hand, a small kin-group they call the "leadership group" (a subgroup of R1B1, like the majority of men in Scotland & Ireland) who claim and seem to have a close relation to some Lennoxes.

• They being people mostly called MacFarlane who curate the Family Tree DNA project page and explain and interpret the results. The results themselves are done by different people on a separate site.

The MacFarlane webpage is still headed with the pre-emptive conclusion that MacFarlane (I) is a cadet of Lennox (R1B1).

It is so fraught with circular argument, begged questions, and form-letters dismissing the great horde of "viking" elephants in the room that it's startling. Their repeated interpretation is that if you are anything but the R1B1 cluster, your ancestors were non-paternity events, adopted or peripheral tenants randomly fetching up around Arrochar (with oddly little of the ubiquitous R1B1) but given generous permission to borrow this strangely Gaelic name adopted by French-speaking, Latin-writing (Norman-Breton?) Lennoxes.

Or, you know, it's the bleedin' obvious, that the (viking-haplotypes) MacFarlanes are descended from Norwegians and when their boss-family was left with just heiresss they followed the usual form and adopted-in a cadet (R1B1), telling the troops and the grandkids (as the Rose/Rosses did) that their dad was really not a random bought-in stranger but some far-back relative on the paternal side, "one of the old earls" sidelines, honest!

Or else the boss's wife had a non-paternity event courtesy of a Lennox. 86.187.166.193 (talk) 10:52, 18 August 2017 (UTC)