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Thyme

Thyme imparts a distinctive taste that sets Manhattan clam chowder apart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.188.241.43 (talk) 17:08, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Legal Seafoods?

what is with the reference to legal seafoods? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.234.42.58 (talk) 13:49, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well aparantly their Clam chowder is famous. "The chain boasts that its clam chowder has been served at every U.S. presidential inauguration since 1981." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.134.41.234 (talk) 00:07, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh no you didn't.

When a suspicious statement in an article is tagged with {{Fact}}, I fail to understand how anyone can be so hopelessly unintelligent as to think it's in any way, shape, or form okay to remove it if you're not actually including a citation. If you're so sure that in some long ago age clam chowder was clear and restaurant patrons added cream themselves, find a respectable source that agrees with you. When you inevitably can't do that, because this idea is straight up nonsense, you need to let the citation tag stay or admit defeat and delete the garbage you dropped upon this innocent article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.233.116.179 (talk) 18:21, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ATTENTION bibliomaniac.

You blame me, in private, for "cluttering up" this article. Someone else has cluttered it up this with their unsourced statements; by comparison, my citation tags are harmonious works of art, adorning this text like morning dew drops upon a flower, a coy smile upon a fair young maiden. I'm calling out this editor on their malicious vandalism, and their multiple unsourced statement deserve multiple demands for truth. Next time, take your balls out of your purse and challenge me in public on the discussion page, where all the world can see the frail, brittle foundation upon which your self-righteousness is standing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.233.116.179 (talk) 19:50, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Umm...harmonious works of art? Morning dew drops upon a flower? A coy smile upon a fair young maiden? Malicious vandalism? If you insist that the article is so broken beyond repair, why couldn't you help fix it? I told you that a "Needs referencing" template would suffice on your talk page, rather than adding a citation needed at the end of every statement (which indeed clutters up the article). Take this up to WP:ANI, but don't expect to see many people in your favor. bibliomaniac 1 5 20:05, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Contradiction

The article states "Restaurants typically serve New England or Manhattan chowder, but not both." Later in the same paragraph, it states, "Many restaurants in northern Rhode Island sell both red and white chowders..." Anyone else find this contradictory? Tan | 39 23:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes and no. Rhode Island is a very small state, so if a few restaurants there serve both, it doesn't invalidate the generalization. oknazevad (talk) 15:28, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree the "information" is presented very clumsily. The "clear chowder" is mentioned under the Manhattan section, but not defined until the RI section. But I realize wars have been fought over the definition of clam chowder, and I don't want to fan the flames more than necessary. Huw Powell (talk) 03:24, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've been in plenty of restaurants that serve multiple varieties of chowder. Offering both NE and M chowders is common in NYC and in Michigan. I've seen one establishment in the Bronx that has NE, M, and Bronx Clam Chowder, whatever that is. (19 March 2014). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.95.126.178 (talk) 19:26, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"and in Michigan"

Nope. Maybe 30 years ago, but all most all chowder served in michigan is white (new england) in recent years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.18.173.40 (talk) 22:00, 16 October 2017‎

I don't believe this is contradictory. The article states that restaurants in Rhode Island serve both red and white, not Manhattan and New England. Red clam chowder in Rhode Island is different than the Manhattan variant, as stated later in the article under the Rhode Island heading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.91.216.5 (talk) 16:17, 12 February 2018

Cream in Infobox

Why is cream listed as an ingredient in the infobox? I'm certainly not a Manhattan clam chowder partisan (I definately prefer New England), but cream is not a universal ingredient of clam chowder. I assumed this was pro-New England vandalism, but checking history, cream has been on the ingredient list for at least 9 months. Ingredients should be clams and broth, and I would think potatoes and onions are universal as well, but I could be wrong on that. Cream shouldn't be listed as an ingredient.192.104.39.2 (talk)

New Joisey? Demeaning and Insulting.

Can someone editor please remove such a dreadful and demeaning stereotype as to say that the New Jersey local dialect pronounces the name of our home as "New Joisey". Absolutely NO ONE I've ever met from any corner of this state pronounces it in such a way. This myth is perpetuated only by out-of-state persons and mobster film actors. It is SO insulting, not to mention it complies with no wiki sourcing method. Avon-By-The-Sea is a tourist trap for New Yorkers, and maybe THEY call us "Joisey", but to us, it's like long fingernails slowing scraping down a giant, endless chalkboard. The editor who posted such should be formally reprimanded. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.253.125.238 (talk) 04:18, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The only more insulting thing would be to say, "Fughetaboutit" afterwards. When I mention I am from New Jersey, nearly every out-of-state person says. "New Joisey...What Exit? Fughetaboutit." It's revolting, and clear that the only thing they associate with our state is The Soprano's! "New Joisey" should just fade to black. Sorry for not signing in before I left a comment. I was only trying to get a recipe. BTW, in New York, it is a huge insult when someone is referred to as a New Englander!Popartpete 04:35, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Why don't we add, "Bada Bing", or "Johnnycakes" to the mix?? I'm sorry, but I hear this stuff repeatedly and it is SO irksome!!! Popartpete 04:55, 25 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Popartpete (talk • contribs)

"Best on Wednesdays"???

Where does this come from? It sounds like someone's opinion. Encyclopedias are supposed to be based on FACT or at least evidence. I eat chowder whenever I feel like it, and it always tastes great to me. 74.69.11.229 (talk) 21:44, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Origin??

Hi. The article goes straight into the different varieties of the dish, but there is nothing on its origin. Could someone who works on this page come up with something? Thanks, regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 21:50, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The origin seems obscure but the Chowder article leads towards French rather than American. So without a stout citation, obscure might be the best option? SovalValtos (talk) 17:39, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Query

I see, clearly, by the biased article of Clam Chowder that New England is the master here. But does that explain the sad and sorry photo of Manhattan Clam Chowder??? Who picked this photo? It is insulting, to say the least. Even if some idiot posts a better photo with non-traditional CARROTS, which are NEVER part of Manhattan clam chowder, NEVER! It would be a better picture than the whatever this is picture on this biased article. Thank you. Scott Anafas (talk) 19:27, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I've never seen Manhattan Clam Chowder that looks like that. It should be much thinner for one. I can find pics, but alas I don't know how to add them (19 March 2014) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.95.126.178 (talk) 19:24, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Clam Chowder did originate in Newfoundland, Canada before being taken to New England, U.S.A — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.247.254.141 (talk) 14:33, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delaware-style unclear

The Delaware-style chowder is unclear as to whether broth and/or dairy is incorporated. The description gives the impression that salt water is used in place of these, and a Google image search appears to indicate that it's dairy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:E320:3CD:8CCF:798E:8CA4:6A65 (talk) 23:09, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"occasionally referred to as Boston Clam Chowder in the Midwest,"

can we get a cite(or else removal)? lived in the midwest over 40 years and never heard it called that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.18.173.40 (talk) 21:56, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Definitions

1. What does "singer clams and mirepoix" mean in a clam chowder recipe?174.130.28.1 (talk) 22:32, 17 November 2017 (UTC)Thank you.[reply]

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Bread bowls

Why no mention of the bread bowl as a common way to eat clam chowder?Redbydawn (talk) 20:13, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Is it really that common? I know New England style in a bread bowl considered fairly emblematic of Fisherman's Wharf in San Francisco, and not unheard of elsewhere, but overall I don't think there's any particular distinct relationship. Clam chowder is eaten in all sorts of other vessels, and bread bowls are used for many types of thicker soups (like broccoli and cheddar soup). oknazevad (talk) 21:17, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Because it is not a "common way" to eat clam chowder. --Macrakis (talk) 23:17, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]