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Good articleChuck Versus Santa Claus has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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DateProcessResult
March 31, 2011Good article nomineeNot listed
April 4, 2011Good article nomineeListed
Current status: Good article

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Reviewer: Miyagawa (talk) 08:53, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I will be reviewing. I'll give the article a read through now and add points as I see them. Miyagawa (talk) 08:53, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Lead & Plot: First mention of each character needs the actor name in brackets afterwards. It's already been done for the guests, but needs to be done for the mains.
  • Critical response: "especially strong installment, which delivered on a lot of fronts." - needs a citation to directly follow it.
  • References: Ref 3 needs an access date. Ref 10 is linking to the site's generic front page. However, is it possible to replace it with a similar reference to 11? That way it easily avoids any issues with 10 being a blog.

I'll give the article another look through once those points are covered.

Regards the Bryce Larkin point, I would say that only if the actor appeared would they need to follow the character's name in brackets. Miyagawa (talk) 15:33, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I have made changes to address the points above. --Boycool (talk) 02:55, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Only one remaining point - in cultural references, "a light-hearted Dog Day Afternoon parody." needs to have a citation directly following it. Miyagawa (talk) 12:57, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done. So every train of thought needs citation, even when the following sentences are supported by the same source? --Boycool (talk) 19:19, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's just quotes - they need directly following citations.Miyagawa (talk) 20:12, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to grade this one as a GA now. Good job on the overall improvements, and especially on the changes since the first GA review. It's great to see a Chuck episode meeting the grade, and I hope this won't be the last. :) Well done. Miyagawa (talk)

Thank you very much. And yes, I intend for this to be the first of many. :D --Boycool (talk) 01:22, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cultural references

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When Ned scratches his head with his pistol, is that automatically a reference to Plan 9 from Outer Space, or is there actually another movie where that occurs?
Varlaam (talk) 02:03, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To add this would require there to be a valid source to confirm the reference. It's far too generic to point to any one reference.Ambaryer (talk) 03:32, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, o 2K user.
Speaking as a former big wheel at the IMDb, no, it is not especially generic. Varlaam (talk) 01:59, 6 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Without a source, it is still original research. --Boycool (talk) 11:58, 6 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Considering that IMDB is not considered a valid source.... Anyway, great for you, Mr. Big Wheel, but it doesn't matter WHO you are. Do you realize just HOW OFTEN characters are shown scratching their heads with a gun? Without ANY supporting dialogue you can't definitively say "Guy scratches head with pistol MUST = Plan 9 from Outer Space." Maybe he was referencing an episode of Family Matters when Carl got angry while on a night-job as a film set security guard because the "cop" in the film was shown doing that. This is NOT like the "Ivan Drago" reference debate we had on another episode. The name Ivan Drago is sufficiently connected to one particular film that the reference stands on its own. A guy scratching his head with a gun can come from ANYTHING without specific context. This one needs a source to confirm the reference exists. Ambaryer (talk) 12:46, 6 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's wrong to refer to Santa Claus as a "North American figure" in a caption in this article. The character himself is not specifically from any country(or populated region), and while no doubt numerous American writers and media have contributed to the modern image of Santa, his origins lie in many different European countries and traditions.124.169.138.237 (talk) 20:49, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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