Talk:Chris Willis

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I see that this page has come up for deletion. This page should not be deleted but expanded. Chris willis is an amazing vocalist with a huge fanbase world wide. He is the voice behind all of David Guetta's number 1 songs and should be given some credit. He's been with Guetta for 4years and before sang with heritage and solo career in gospel. He recently released My freedom which is receiving more radia. A simple google or youtube search will prove this. Let's get some real info on here.

Again, none of the hits on google are reliable sources. The page is up for deletion because it does not establish its notability with third party source. The article is also riddled with COI and POV, as one can see from the comments made above. These should be addressed, but only after the notability problem. Also, the claims you make about him dueting with David Guetta seem unreferenced and is mentioned once as a supporting artist. Metagraph comment 07:14, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

metagraph, I'm new to actually workings of wikipedia and what is considered a reliable source. But its seems that as a musical performance notability could be established by his successful career should be notable enough. Are billboard charts not a reliable source for new artists? what about magazines article. It was seems that something devoted to current issues as wikipedia should allow for current trendsetters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.83.232.85 (talk) 03:22, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree but I'm not sure how to edit the page either. Chris willis performs vocals for most of David Guetta's hits and cowrites many of them. but how do you site that? Could the cd jackets be a source? Thereis this article with the interview on about.com http://dancemusic.about.com/od/artistshomepages/a/ChrisWillisInt_3.htm. and then there's the billboard.com listing him as featured artist of thoses but again don't know how to site that either. http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003627946. His song after the love is gone was a top 10 on billboard and crossed over to pop charts top 100. It won number 1 single at last years world music award. but not sure if that's relevant or how to site that.12.198.186.82 (talk) 21:40, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The money link should be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_%28David_Guetta_song%29. I started adding songs to the the Category Chris Willis songs. Will edit more later.Avgjoeloveswiki (talk) 22:14, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The page should be deleted... This is because it is impermissable to consider the performances on the David Guetta or Marc Mysterio tracks for noteworthyness... Rather, on his own remaining works other than with those two artists, none received chartings on any national chart. hence, i would suggest deleting the page if its agreed that the guetta and mysterio tracks are to be excluded from this discussion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.82.159.151 (talk) 07:46, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article has multiple references and meets criterion #1 of WP:MUSIC. Also note that a previous deletion discussion resulted in the article being kept, not deleted. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 03:43, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Seems that this page is being vandalised repeatedly by someone. How do you protect a page from vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.198.186.89 (talk) 18:33, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If the vandalism continues, I'll protect it. Or if I'm not around, you can make a request at WP:RFPP. I'd rather not protect it just yet, because some anonymous editors have made some helpful contributions to the article. Thanks. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 19:02, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am trying to add notation of Willis' song with Marc Mysterio "Roll Wit It http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roll_Wit_It

also http://www.discogs.com/Marc-Mysterio-Roll-Wit-It/release/1762188

Its charted in club charts in USA, Canada, and on radio in Ukraine, and Netherlands. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.69.2.139 (talk) 01:54, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Roll Wit It / Marc Mysterio

I am trying to add notation of Willis' song with Marc Mysterio "Roll Wit It http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roll_Wit_It

also http://www.discogs.com/Marc-Mysterio-Roll-Wit-It/release/1762188

Its charted in club charts in USA, Canada, and on radio in Ukraine, and Netherlands. Someone appears to be deleting it, and his mention on this page. Its a notable song and matter of public record.

I just added in some reference. It should stay there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.69.2.139 (talk) 02:36, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

wiki puff

some editor keeps re-inserting non-notable puff. the charts need not be present since: a. willis is secondary artist on these songs b. its already mentioned in the body of the article.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.82.135.234 (talk) 16:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually singers, especially ones with many charted tracks likely should have charts. Noting the songs in the text body is helpful but it can also lead to bad writing simply to get every song in. Instead we'd rather have a chart with eevry song and write about only the ones that help explain the subject. -- Banjeboi 21:22, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Willis

I am Chris Willis. While most of the history on this page is true, there is much that is on the page that I personally find irrelevant to the purpose of this site. Therefore I think I should at least have a say so in which content should be kept and which should be deleted. I don't know who the resource is for my birth date, but whatever the case the information is incorrect. Please stop reposting this incorrect information. I take significant issue at my personal life being a matter of fact. I think it is more important that this site catalogue my musical history and only that. Therefore I would appreciate all information that is not relevant to my musical history be deleted. I hope it is within my right that this request stand. Chriswillistheone (talk) 17:46, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I believe that as you are notable for your music and not for your personal life we can keep that information excised. In general, subjects of articles aren't able to direct the article contents but I don't see any harm in deferring to your wishes in this. Please forgive my re-insertion, it was unclear whether you were indeed the subject of the article (even considering your username) or a vandal. If you would please, can you email 'info-en@wikimedia.org' from an official email address belonging to you and confirm your identity? Thanks very much. Syrthiss (talk) 18:02, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually no, we include content relevant to a subject's notability with due weight. The subject was asked about their sexuality in context of their career/singing and the subject answered the same in a media interview that was, of course, published in a reliable source. They also served as a travel embassador of sorts for Planet Out - another LGBT publication - speaking about LGBT attitudes in Atlanta. There is a couple relevant phrases here, Wikipedia does not censor and you can't unring a bell. If the question and the subject's answer didn't revolve around their music career a better argument against inclusion could be made but realistically this information is readily available and we are only reporting what is already published. -- Banjeboi 20:43, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually yes, in part since you on one hand have problem finding sources (above) and the other only "include content relevant to a subject's notability with due weight." This WP article is listed #4 at a google search with the terms "Chris Willis gay"; the three results above and the lot coming after gay sites and personal blogs; hardly the kind of sources we are after. A similar search on Google News with the OPs name only delivers even less; the third article listed is from a site orientated towards the gay community, then there's nothing about the person in question in the following 30 hits - and probably thereafter. Judging by the results, no national newspapers have any articles about the person or any information that could be perceived sensitive. Some probably do but it's nothing the regular churchgoer Chris has been singing for would easily find. I listen to music and read news, I didn't know much about CW's private life and I respect him a lot for that, no need to sell oneself to the press if you got so much talent. (And I'm using the sexuality issue to highlight CW's principal request; birthdate and partners and addresses etc applies as well.). In this case WP is not paying attention (you above) to the principle of causing no harm and never act as a newspaper:

Biographies of living persons (BLPs) must be written conservatively and with regard for the subject's privacy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid: it is not Wikipedia's job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives, and the possibility of harm to living subjects must always be considered when exercising editorial judgment. WP:BLP. Further:

Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion.

Thus, in this case, 'due weight' and 'conservative' are the leading stars when considering WP:WELLKNOWN. Next time someone like Chris is coming around, let us be kind, treat him like a real person and remember how firm Jimmy Wales is on the topic: Real people are involved, and they can be hurt by your words. We are not tabloid journalism, we are an encyclopedia..--Ancientkingdom (talk) 23:34, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Mysterio

Mark Mysterio AKA Mark Albert has failed to acknowledge the fact that the he and legal representative for Chris Willis have been in the middle of an extensive lawsuit over the following song "Roll WIt It". As a result we have made numerous attempts to come to a settlement on this particular work. As long as Mr. Albert refuses to cooperate, we will do everything we can to uphold the law on our side where this work is concerned. This issue should be settled in court and therefore any statistical data posted on Wikipedia is at best in extremely poor taste, no matter how accurate.Chriswillistheone (talk) 17:58, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm unclear on what material in particular you are objecting to here. Can you be more specific? Syrthiss (talk) 18:05, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia only reports what is published and we will include content that is relevant to the subject whether or not they see it in "bad taste". Our editorial policy cares not if their is a legal dispute there - in fact if the legal tussle is covered in reliable sources we likely should include it with those details. Please see some of our longer articles on almost anyone famous. We dispassionately cover the good, bad and ugly. -- Banjeboi 20:46, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Roll Wit It

Please see above Mark Mysterio/Roll WIt ItChriswillistheone (talk) 18:15, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Micheal Jackson

Did Chris Willis was selected by MJ for the This is it tour? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.74.6.66 (talk) 10:08, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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