Talk:Chris Smith (defensive end)

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Requested move 16 November 2014

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: move the page, per the discussion below; please help disambiguate any links to Chris Smith created due to this move. Dekimasuよ! 07:04, 4 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Smith (American football) → Chris Smith (defensive end) – There is other American football player's with this name – Yankees10 22:18, 16 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:12, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. There's another, older version of an article on this player in the significant edit history at the target. Dekimasuよ! 08:11, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
And first move the existing Chris Smith (defensive end) to another name, as these 2 pages are WP:Parallel histories and their histories are independent, so no history-merge. But for clarity instead move to Chris Smith (American football)(defensive end)? :: most people know what American football is, but this is the first time that I (and thus likely many others) have ever heard of a "defensive end". (I am in England.) Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:12, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- That sounds good to me. Or Chris Smith (American football defensive end) / Chris Smith (American football, defensive end) or Chris Smith (American football, born 1992) / Chris Smith (born 1992)-- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 04:37, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No - This is not how disambiguating is done. It's custom on Wikipedia to add the year of birth in order to disambiguate in case of multiple persons in the same line of work. So (American football, born in xx) would be the proper way to do it. The current dab page is a mess in that respect. --Midas02 (talk) 15:01, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes this is exactly how it is done with American football players. The only time (American football, born XXXX) is used is if there are two players that played the same position. But every other time the disambiguation is the position the player played.--Yankees10 17:49, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support this title should redirect to the disambiguation page, just as Chris Smith (football) does. This page title fails WP:PRECISE there being other players of American football by this name with articles (multiple players, not just one other), so ambiguous disambiguation is a fairly bad idea in this case. The problem edit history can be displaced per my earlier comment above -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 04:38, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Those looking for this article will know what a defensive end is, and it's a likely disambiguator elsewhere in view of the importance of this position (is it already in use?). Noted that the article histories are a (solvable) problem, but this is where we want to end up. Andrewa (talk) 16:26, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.