Talk:Chris Allen (academic)

This article was nominated for deletion on 3 February 2010. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Science and Academia

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the science and academia work group (assessed as Low-importance).

Sociology Low‑importance

	Society portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Sociology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of sociology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SociologyWikipedia:WikiProject SociologyTemplate:WikiProject Sociologysociology articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Islam Low‑importance

	Islam portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Islam, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Islam-related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IslamWikipedia:WikiProject IslamTemplate:WikiProject IslamIslam-related articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Religion: Interfaith Low‑importance

	Religion portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Religion, a project to improve Wikipedia's articles on Religion-related subjects. Please participate by editing the article, and help us assess and improve articles to good and 1.0 standards, or visit the wikiproject page for more details.ReligionWikipedia:WikiProject ReligionTemplate:WikiProject ReligionReligion articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is within the scope of Interfaith work group, a work group which is currently considered to be inactive.

Can someone add his religion. I do not know what it is

Thank you
--OxAO (talk) 15:23, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

With all due respect to your curiosity, his religious is immaterial to the article. Best wishes, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 15:41, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain why you believe religion isn't an issue when religion is the bases of his research

--OxAO (talk) 04:27, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Because scholars seek critical distance from their subjects so they can analyze them objectively. They do not necessarily choose their subjects because of personal interest or empathy. Academic scholars of the Third Reich, for instance, are naturally not Nazis. Moreover, scholars are not necessarily (or even often) participants in the things/activities they study. I can't imagine many criminologists are criminals, for example. I can't imagine that many experts on terrorism undertake any terrorism. Regards, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 04:59, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

this shouldn't be debated. as you said, "Those that study the Nazi's are naturally not Nazis." Good, does that mean Chris is not a Muslim or Christian? Since everyone has some kind of belief or lack of belief it should be stated what his is.

Other wise logically he is defending his religion but assumptions isn't what wikipeda should be about.

--OxAO (talk) 19:37, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Most Wikipedia articles do NOT include the subject's religion despite your claim that "everyone has some kind of belief or lack of belief". There is no logic in claiming "he is defending his religion". Check out the article on Fred Donner, for example. He's one of the world's leading experts on early Islam. His religion is not given. Best wishes, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 05:14, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]