Talk:Chris-Craft Commander
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What is meant by the term,"Sedan" as seen in Chris-Craft boats? Thanks, Jim Jpaulstra (talk) 06:38, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Sedan is a style, meaning that the area under the hardtop is fully enclosed. In the Commanders, this enclosure was accessed through a sliding door. Sedans were built by the factory both with and without flybridges. 21:34 (-6h GMT) 2 April 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.135.158.188 (talk) 02:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Chris Craft Commander, 1964, 38 Hull Number 1
[edit]Hull # 1 was built in Holland Michigan and in December 1964 was sent to Roddi Marine in Fla. The boat is now owned by C. Cheston in Cherry Hill, NJ and is up for sale. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.188.73.141 (talk) 20:30, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
please follow Wikipedia rules
[edit]This page has a lot of edits consisting of what appear to be completely original thought. see WP:ORIGINAL
Please don't add text unless you have a specific published reference you can cite, and then please cite the reference consistent with Wikipedia's standards. see WP:SOURCE
Finally, I deleted the promotional text and links to a Chris Craft enthusiast's blog because this is an inappropriate use of Wikipedia. see WP:NOTPROMOTION CCCommander42 (talk) 15:01, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
Parking here for safe-keeping:
The following information is from the book: The Legacy of the Fiberglass Chris Craft Commander, ISBN 978-0-615-33459-2, published 2009, reprinted 2010, by Paul Pletcher, provided here with permission from the author and publisher:
"The Chris Craft Commander line represents the first fiberglass cruiser series built by Chris Craft, commencing with the first 38’ Express designed and built in secret, and shipped to the 1964 New York Boat Show under wraps for what was a truly stunning unveiling. Fred Hudson, working in conjunction with Chris Craft’s Senior Vice President, A.W. “Bill” MacKerer, designed the first 38’ Commander Express. In subsequent years there were many more models of the Commander penned by Dick Avery, all of which have nearly flawless proportion and great attention to detail. The Commanders created a boating style of their own, flawless proportions, logical function, and the feeling of solid value. When you saw one (and see one today) you immediately think “Chris Craft”. They are known by marine surveyors, collectors, and boating enthusiast’s world-wide as “the standard” for fiberglass boat construction." It is noted that in order to enhance the accuracy of this publication, the author involved Herb Pocklington during review and who also directly contributed to the content, who served as former Chris Craft Public Relations Director, Advertizing Manager, Director of Product Planning & Styling director of product planning and styling at Chris Craft, also serving as CEO of Chris-Craft S.A. (Switzerland) and Chris-Craft Italia, during the time the Commanders listed in the lineup below were planned and manufactured:
The following information is from the book: 'Restoration of the Fiberglass Chris Craft Commander, Also Featuring Classic Fiberglass Lancer and Corsair Runabouts', ISBN 978-0-615-44519-9, published 2011, by Paul Pletcher, provided here with permission from the author and publisher:
"It became apparent that A.W. “Bill” MacKerer, who had a lifetime history at Chris Craft being responsible for so many wonderful wood hulls, and all other executives at Chris Craft were concerned about the design and structural integrity of the new 38, as well they should have been. They really did not know how strong to build the big cruiser hulls with fiberglass, as there wasn’t really any precedence within the company, and although there were other fiberglass boats being built at the time (Hatteras, for instance), nobody really knew how long the various combinations of resin and glass would endure, because the products just had not been around long enough. So in short, the company had to move into fiberglass to stay competitive, they defaulted on the side of conservatism, and the boats ended up being over-engineered, which is a good thing for owners today. Chris Craft designed the first Commanders to withstand 3 times the stress of running at wide open throttle in a six foot sea. One wonders if the hulls were not really engineered beyond that." It is noted that in order to enhance the accuracy of this publication, the author involved Herb Pocklington during review and who also directly contributed to the content (see brief bio in paragraphs above); and also involved Chris Smith, former Chris Craft employee and grandson of Christopher Columbus Smith (founder of Chris Craft) who was in charge of the actual building of the first Commander wood plug, from which the first molds were made, and who personally water tested many of these boats.
Totally Incorrect
[edit]This entire article is totally wrong, there were wood Commanders built in the fifties. Yes, it was a totally different boat but still by Chris-Craft and had the same name. Someone with more skill than I should correct this article to reflect that fact. 203.160.80.244 (talk) 02:54, 15 October 2020 (UTC)