Talk:Chopper (rap)

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This article completely ignores the late 80's/early 90's Los Angeles scene centered around the Good Life Cafe open-mic nights. In http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Is_the_Life_%282008_film%29 one can see footage of rappers "choppin'" (as they refer to it) a few years before Tech N9ne, Myka 9 doing melodic chops in the same fashion Bone Thugs 'N' Harmony did a couple of years later, rappers saying Big Daddy Kane was actually the first prominent artist to use the style, Busta Rhymes seeing Myka 9 perform before starting to chop himself (http://www.formatmag.com/features/pigeon-john/) etc. I am just to lazy to rewrite the whole erroneous entry. 89.201.128.16 (talk) 13:12, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Jay-Z and Big Jaz deserve a mention

Jay-Z actually did "chopping" (or double-time rap or twisting as we call it) as early as 1989, in the song "The Originators", along with then Big Jaz (now Jaz-O). Attaching Discogs link (and video so you can see what I mean).

https://www.discogs.com/The-Jaz-The-Originators/release/398621

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XPZSbdyPKk

Furthermore, some tracks deemed "chopping" in this article are just regular one-syllable-per-16th (of a bar) songs. For chopping you will have syllables of most phrases double that frequency (i.e. one per 32th).