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A news item involving Chokri Belaid was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 7 February 2013.

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In Arabic, his first name is "شكري ", the first letter is "ش" which is pronounced as "sha", therefore pronounced "shokri". Chokri doesn't seem to do it justice. Opinions? --Droodkin (talk) 13:02, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tunisia is a former French colony, the letter "ش" is transliterated as ch and not sh. Similar examples are Chokri El Ouaer, Chaker Zouagi, Chaker Bargaoui, all Tunisian footballers. Also, since both Arabic and French are officially used in Tunisia, people will have an "official" transliterated version of their name, therefore there is no need to decide on a spelling, unlike say Middle Eastern countries where you will find plenty of different variations of the same name. TonyStarks (talk) 14:38, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If it's the official transliterated version, then it's fine by me. Apologies. --Droodkin (talk) 14:54, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's all good, it's a fair question to ask .. and since we're being technical, his last name should be Belaïd, with the ï. A quick search on Google News in French will show how common it is. TonyStarks (talk) 16:52, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

My fault, i did not realize there was an ongoing discussion about this. I added the other spelling as there are a number of news article and search engine results that refer to him as with the other spelling. It was to help the visitor who might be seeking more information to note there are other spelling - no matter how incorrect. Saying that, I certainly defer to the above on correct translative spelling. Cheers!Gray106 (talk) 23:18, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

True, I think we should include a "also transliterated as Shokri" part in the first sentence. --Droodkin (talk) 06:18, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Normally I would agree to this suggestion but in this case it is just an error and I personally don't think we should be emphasizing an incorrect spelling. TonyStarks (talk) 08:02, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Right...one should not emphasize incorrect spelling, a simple sentence that informs the reader about the other spelling as a matter of clarification is helpful, no? This inclusion of "also transliterated as Shokri" does not seem harmful or factually inaccurate, but it is information to the reader.Gray106 (talk) 16:42, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Gray106 that the information would be helpful, as the "Shokri" spelling was widespread in the media and this article was named that way for a time. Jus da fax 21:51, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Great! input from the others? May I proceed with adding "also transliterated as Shokri" to the opening LEDE?Gray106 (talk) 19:35, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Without further objection, I would say consensus exists to do so. Jus da fax 00:23, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a generally-accepted theory on who the killers were?

What organization they might have belonged to? Anything that could be used in the article yet? HammerFilmFan (talk) 21:47, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not that I have seen. The information, if it appears in reliable sources, should be included here assuming it is not dubious speculation. Jus da fax 21:55, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like the one accused was killed this month. From ansar al sharia(Lihaas (talk) 15:33, 6 February 2014 (UTC)).[reply]

Links

>> Tunisia marks anniversary of Belaid murder [1](Lihaas (talk) 15:33, 6 February 2014 (UTC)).[reply]

Pronunciation

@Abjiklam: The pronunciation can't be any other way according to the spelling, Chokri Belaid and the Tunisian phonology. The transliteration Shukrī Bil‘īd is the confusing and the inaccurate one! --Mahmudmasri (talk) 21:26, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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