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Gakio-Walton Scholarship was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 07 January 2014 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Choate Rosemary Hall. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

WTF

Why was this page deleted? Is there a way to get it back?! Mjl0509 21:15, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So, according to the deletion log, there was a copyright violation, but that's no reason to delete an entire page. Seriously, whoever did that, shame on you, now we have to build the whole page back. F-Minus, whoever you are. Mjl0509

Must have been a Deerfield graduate. I hear they're not too bright. :) Frankg 17:32, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried to put the copywright free section back as best i could. it at least gives us something to work with. Dbloys 17:54, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As I told Mjl0509 on my talk page, many reversions had the copyvio text, so our only course was to delete and start from scratch. No bias was involved. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 19:24, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

However, I am going through the history now (it still exists, but only admins can see it) ans try to include as much as I can find, such as infoboxes, categories, interwiki links, etc. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 19:30, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

this page needs some work, I went through and edited grammar, but it's lacking a lot of substance. flagitious 06:05, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

That's fine, keep on editing it. I have no plans to edit it myself. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 06:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Assess

Why was the Choate page deleted?

Old US school with impressive alumni. Needs more refs and topics to be a B 81.178.123.240 08:13, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Page Cleanup

I just visited this page for the first time in a while and found some questionable changes had been made. I've gone through and cleaned things up, paying special attention to the Prominent Alumni section (there were some names on the list whose "prominence" was debatable). JoanneC 4:55, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Clearly the dates in the history section are made up, otherwise Chris Columbus would have been met on the shores and told, sorry, he didn't qualify for admittance. Don't know what the right ones are though.

Already fixed it. Frankg 13:31, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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how exactly is ted kazinski an american hero?

Vandalism/NPOV

Watch this place. Deerfield's "Choate Day" is on November 11, 2006 this year, and the rivalry is intense on both countsy. I'm a DA student, and I take Wikipedia pretty seriously, so watch this place. Theirs going to be a lot of vandalism on both these pages. Choate and Deerfield do have a rivalry established sometime in the 70s. I have to dig up the article about that as a source though.

The part in the "overview" section about the rivalry with Deerfield is blatantly not NPOV. There is also significant vandalism ("retarded") in the "Prominent alumni" section. I don't know enough about Choate to clean up this article myself.Trojanpony 00:20, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

arts center photo

Tls, I'm relatively new to this, so if my attempts at removing and replacing your photo were awkward or inappropriate, I'm very sorry. I'm still getting the hang of things. I certainly did not mean to offend anyone. As for not responding to your initial request to discuss the matter, I simply wasn't aware of it; but I realize now that you have some concerns, and of course I'm more than happy to address them. As for the image that you uploaded...I just don't feel that it matches the look or style of the other two photos on the page (which is why I tried to replace it with another image). Again, I'm still learning the editing protocol here, so please bear with me. If you have any suggestions about how best to proceed, I'd be interested in hearing them. Thanks. 15:00, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

no problem, glad we could work it out

Joanne -- I think I agree with you, the page may look better without that particular image of the Arts Center, particularly because the way most browsers lay the page out with the image tags in the order they're in, the Arts Center picture ends up below the horizontal line in the "External Links" page, which looks weird. I am not so skilled at Wikipedia either and I don't know how to deal with this kind of page layout issue but I'll do some experiments. If I can't figure out anything that looks better I'll just put the page back how you had it.

Let me play with it for a day or two, if you don't mind. Maybe it would look better with your picture of the building instead of mine, if I can get the layout working OK for a horizontal image at all. I mostly uploaded my image for the building's own page and for the I.M. Pei page gallery -- it's shot square to the building so the perspective is correct, which is what you want for an architecture page -- not so important here at all really. But the building is the major campus landmark if you come through on Xtian street and I think it would be nice to have some picture of it here -- if it can be done without looking bad.

Just please don't repeatedly revert changes without using the discussion page or, at least, descriptive edit summaries; I'll do the same...

Thanks! Tls 16:48, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

okay, that's fair enough

Tls, your solution sounds like a good one. I won't revert your changes to the photo - I promise! Thanks for being understanding. Good luck with the layout...

JoanneC 12:18, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

layout tweaked for PMAC image

I did a bunch of complicated things with tables for which I had high hopes -- ended up fighting with MediaWiki's own layout engine for about an hour, then gave up. So I tried shuffling the order of the images and making the horizontal one wider. I think that worked. The key is to not let MediaWiki see a break between images anywhere near where it wants to put a horizontal line, or it will run it right through there and make things look odd. As it turns out, the horizontal image (if it's the middle of the 3) can take up as much of the space over left towards the long list of alumni as necessary; I limited it to 300 pixels because otherwise it looks too large next to the other pictures.

Hope this works -- and it gives us a decent way to accomodate whatever other horizontal image on the page if we want to, too. Swap the image out for yours if you want, though I think with this layout mine looks OK -- or if you think it still looks funny let me know! Tls 21:59, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

page layout

Tls, I appreciate all of the time that you spent working on the layout, but I do still think something's off. If you don't mind, I'm going to try fiddling with it a bit in the sandbox (and in the process I may upload my photo of the arts center). Please give me a day or two to experiment, and then let me know what you think. Thanks, JoanneC 12:16, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

uploading images

Joanne, the thing is, you uploaded your image over mine again, which caused mine to be replaced in the other places I was using it. The right thing to do is to use a different name for your image -- you'd already uploaded it with a different name -- and then switch the image name in this page so it shows your image. I'll fix it that way in a minute. Uploading a new version of an existing image replaces that image everywhere it's used, not just on this page, so it's not the best way to do it.

Cutting the number of images to two and leaving one horizontal tightened up the page a lot. I like the way it looks. Tls 17:22, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

images

Tls, I'm glad that you like the new layout; I think it finally looks right. I didn't realize that uploading a new version of an image replaces that image everywhere else -- I apologize. I hope that it's not too much trouble for you to fix it. JoanneC 16:21 28 August 2006 (UTC)

More NPOV issues

Someone added, "Choate is widely regarded by most as the top ranked private secondary school in the United States." While I think few would argue that Choate is among the top schools, what's the factual basis for indicating that it is the top school? I'm guessing there have been at least some rankings or polls done...can anyone dig them up? (As a Choate alum, I don't disagree, but it would be good to justify the claim!) Frankg 08:40, 19 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

top 3

id say the top 3 schools would probably be exeter, andover, st pauls. not necesarily in that order

In terms of "selectivity of admissions" both deerfield Hotchkiss and Goton are higher ranked than Andover, Exeter, Choate and SPS. Choate is definitely a top tier school though. And it is one of the best schools in the country.

top by what criterion?

If it's "how selective for admissions" I think your list is probably about right -- I seem to remember (this is now thinking back 15 years, so maybe I remember wrong) that Groton was also famously hard to get into. And maybe this is what matters to the snob set. By other criteria -- who knows? I mean, you could use "excellence at ice hockey" as a criterion and then you'd get Avon as the top school, or something; by admissions to top-ranked colleges, there are probably day schools in major cities that do better than the best prep schools do, or at least as well, which just muddies the water. The "the top" statement is hopelessly NPOV and should stay out.

In terms of "selectivity of admissions" both deerfield Hotchkiss and Goton are higher ranked than Andover, Exeter, Choate and SPS. Choate is definitely a top tier school though. And it is one of the best schools in the country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.184.21.242 (talk) 14:32, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

= "Eight" Schools ==

Taken from the King's Academy website (it's Deerfield Academy's sister school, founded by ex-Headmaster Eric Widmer under the auspices of the Royal Court of Jordan: "The “Eight Schools” of America—Andover, Choate, Deerfield, Exeter, Hotchkiss, Lawrenceville, Northfield/ Mt. Hermon and St. Paul’s—have already affirmed a “philosophical affiliation” with King’s. Next year, as we open, we will be invited to join the G20 group of select schools on every continent..."

These can be typically characterized as the "Ivy League" of prep schools.

Course Offerings

Is there a reason that ethics is listed, but art, philosophy and religion are not? I'd like to change this, unless anyone objects. CB21982 21:20, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Popular Culture References

Should this article include a section listing references to Choate in popular culture? I don't find this addition objectionable, but user 76.170.57.21 has removed it without explanation. CB21982 07:08, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Clubs

We do not need a list of all 81 clubs offered, especially because most other prep schools (indeed, most public high schools) offer a similar plethora of distractions to keep the little darlings off the streets. Mjl0509 (talk) 02:09, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed it. Additionally: reference to the fact that Choate has lots of clubs (which I think is sufficient to cover this issue) has already been made earlier in the article. Plus, this is making the article obscenely long. Mjl0509 (talk) 02:12, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PC Garbage

What is this line supposed to mean? "students of color making up approximately 30 percent of the student body" Does that mean 30% of the students are black, or that 30% of the students are "not white?" Either way, the statement is too over-the-top euphamistic. Either state that 30% of the students are black if that is the case (Call them African American if you must, but keep in mind that this school attracts non-Americans), state that 30% of the students are not Caucasian if that is the case, or just state that 70% of the students are white. "Students of colour" is so obnoxiously ambiguous as to prevent understanding of what is to be conveyed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmprantz (talk • contribs) 17:03, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requests

Could you please add a pronunciation guide? Something like "chōt" would be helpful, if that's correct. Hcbowman (talk) 13:26, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

December 2009 major rewrite

Since my rewrite of the Choate article several days ago, someone has imposed house style and also improved the layout (which my photo-imports had discombobulated) and thank you very much for that. However, some of those corrections need correcting: (1) It's upper-case "President" JFK. The executive of the Executive branch of the United States government is always capitalized. (2) I had added Emil "Bus" Mosbacher to the alumni. He was a great yachtsman (twice defending the America's Cup, in Weatherly and Intrepid), chief of protocol at the State Department, and many other things besides. He was a famous figure in his day. I have restored him. (3) Alan Jay Lerner is identifiable in the world as the creator of Camelot and My Fair Lady. The JFK White House was full of Choaties and was denominated "Camelot" after Lerner's musical, and that is part of his identity. I've restored it in his thumbnail. (4) Andres Duany is an architect and urban planner, yes, but he is identifiable in the world as the founder of the New Urbanism movement. I have restored that fact to his thumbnail. Micheldene (talk) 06:30, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

February 2010 major addition

I've added a "History" section and shifted the Squire Stanley and Homestead photos accordingly. I was inspired by the long (St. Mark's) or longish "History" sections in the Wikipedia articles for other prep schools (e.g., St. Mark's, Andover, Exeter, Lawrenceville, Groton, St. Paul's, Miss Porter's, Deerfield, Northfield Mount Hermon, Hill). My version is weighted to the early years because people are curious about origins, and I've included biographical matter on the Choates and Atwaters, and a sketch of Caroline Ruutz-Rees (Time magazine profiled her at the 50th anniversary of Rosemary). My sources are books in my library, with help from Google Books. Micheldene (talk) 09:30, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:PEACOCK

There has been some disagreement over the use of the unreferenced phrase "Choate is a member of a group of leading American secondary schools..." . I agree with User:Rjanag that this is a unnecessary peacock term. It is simple enough to describe the school and its accomplishments without using a peacock term. Show, don't tell. --Baron Larf 05:11, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'll concede the removal of the short phrase. But for the record, there was, in my opinion, no "peacock term" in the brief edit to which Rjanag refers. I'll repeat the edit below for you to judge, but first its context: I created an article for "Eight Schools Association" (ESA, founded 1973). Those eight schools are Andover, Exeter, St. Paul's, Hotchkiss, Choate, Deerfield, Lawrenceville, and Northfield Mount Hermon. I created a "navbox" and inserted it into those schools' articles. In the case of seven of the schools, my "navbox" went right next to the "navbox" for another organization whose membership largely overlaps ESA, the "Ten Schools Admissions Organization" (TSAO, founded 1966). The ESA has been characterized by Andover's newspaper The Phillipian as "hoping to mirror the Ivy League," and is an increasingly important entity, with a president, executive director, and athletic directors' council. (The inaugural president was the headmaster of Choate.) In most of the Wikipedia articles about the ESA schools there was already a paragraph about membership in the TSAO or the G20 Schools. My edit consisted exclusively in inserting the following phrase into those paragraphs: "member of a group of leading American secondary schools, the Eight Schools Association." Persons familiar with education writing will recognize "leading American secondary schools" as a formulaic and conventional phrase that identifies the genus. I now understand that Wikipedia must err on the side of innocuousness and that "peacock" is a Wikipedia term of art. Micheldene (talk) 07:49, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

March 2010 proliferation of advisory boxes

In recent weeks two contributors have inserted advisory boxes in the Choate article without apparently consulting the usage in Wiki articles for other schools across the board. The first advisory box urged sourcing for the Notable Alumni section. No other article of the 18 I examined had such an advisory box at the head of its Alumni section. I removed the box and gave my reasons in a note on the conributor's Wiki page, asking for an all-or-none approach. (College and university Wiki articles also eschew the advisory box in their alumni sections.) A week later this Choate article was bestrewn with advisory boxes in front of nearly every section that employed bullet lists. Again I compared the Wiki articles for 18 peer prep schools and confirmed that bullet lists are the standard format for the sections on Buildings, Traditions, Fictional Alumni, etc, in articles on American prep schools (as well as colleges and universities). The Choate article was the only one subjected to advisory boxes. I have removed them here. If they reappear here uniquely, but not at other school articles, I will take it up with Wikipedia administration. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Micheldene (talk • contribs) 20:37, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Email to btphelps from Micheldene:

I'm a comparatively new (and like you an ad hoc) contributor to Wikipedia. I have read several of your contributions to Wikipedia and enjoyed them. You seem like a person of good humor and approachability.

I have also read the several Wikipedia "Dispute Resolution" pages, and am following their suggestion that I begin by emailing you. I hope your recent editing of my "Choate Rosemary Hall" article was ad hoc and (so far as you were aware) purely constructive. But there is a history here of mischief-making and I owe it to you to tell you about it.

My two contributions to Wikipedia have been an enlargement of the article for Choate and the creation of "Eight Schools Association." A couple of months ago I introduced a paragraph about the latter into the Wiki articles for its member schools, employing the ancient term "leading schools" as journalistic shorthand to characterize its nature. (I won't rehearse the time-honored usage of the expression "leading schools" here.)

A couple of Wiki contributors objected to the expression as "peacock" and removed it. I bowed to their superior Wiki experience and rewrote the paragraphs. There things happily stood for several weeks. Then one of the two contributors returned to the Choate article and inserted an "unsourced" advisory box at the head of the "Notable Alumni" section. This seemed to me to be a fair enough addition, until I looked at the Wiki articles for a great many other prep schools and found that almost none were sourced at their "Aumni" sections, but that none at all had the advisory box. Only the Choate article had been singled out.

I removed the box and gave my reasons in several places. I suggested that the box might be restored if it were also inserted into other peer school Wiki articles where sourcing was needed, in the interest of Wiki consistency.

Now I see that the advisory box has been reinserted into the Choate article uniquely, together with (your contribution of) several more editorial advisory boxes of the "use-prose-not-bullet-points" type -- in front of sections itemizing Buildings, Traditions, Fictional Alumni, and the like.

Wishing to be reasonable and scientific about it, I have again examined school and university Wiki articles and found that the universal format for such sections is a bullet list, not a paragraph of prose that would obscure the itemization.

Once again, only the Choate article was singled out.

I have removed these unique-to-Choate advisory boxes and I hope you will understand my rationale.

If you'd like to discuss with me their restoration to the article, and even their introduction into other Wiki articles about schools that are presently formatted identically to the Choate article, please be good enough to email me.

Yours respectfully, Roger Micheldene

My contribution

I inserted the {{prose}} links in this article earlier today. I too have written articles that contained lists, which seemed to be the simplest way to deliver like information. Those articles were also tagged with {{prose}}, and I reluctantly considered how I might avoid lists. What I found was that when I put in the effort to move content out of lists, the overall article flowed much better, the information was more easily digestable and usable, and it reflected better on the organization. For an example I am still working on, you can compare the article with list-type contents here and without here.

What makes sense to the reader

I am not familiar with other prep school articles and did not consult them as a reference. Per Wikipedia standards and guidelines, text in WP encyclopedia articles should be insofar as possible written in paragraph format, not as lists. To quote the standards, "Do not use lists if a passage reads easily using plain paragraphs."

More specifically, the article embedded lists offers guidance for sections in articles that may be presented as lists:

Most Wikipedia articles should consist of prose, and not just a list of links. Prose allows the presentation of detail and clarification of context, while a list of links does not. Prose flows, like one person speaking to another, and is best suited to articles, because their purpose is to explain. Therefore, lists of links, which are most useful for browsing subject areas, should usually have their own entries: see Stand-alone lists for detail. In an article, significant items should be mentioned naturally within the text rather than merely listed.

From the point of view of the individual consuming the information, some consideration must be given to the readability of the content. I am personally not someone who bows to convention just because others have done it that way. I tip my hat to what makes the most sense for the reader given the available standards and guidelines. A list that could be reasonably presented as prose strikes me as possible disguise for {{peacock}} posturing.

Example of lists to prose

For example, the section on "Buildings and facilities" could with a bit of effort be made into prose and made much more accessible to the reader. All one has to do is group like buildings together, stick in a sub-head (e.g., "Residential quarters", "Academic buildings", "Administrative buildings" - like they do the Choate web site) and then write a paragraph or two about the notable buildings on campus. I don't believe the article, institution or the reader is served by a laundry list of every building on campus. Here's a very good example: take the buildings in the long list of facilities (e.g., tennis court, track, gymnasium, boathouse, etc.) that are related to Athletics and include them in that section, describing what makes them notable or interesting, and likewise for the other buildings. That's both useful and relevant to the readers' interest. This isn't supposed to be a place where Choate's entire history is recorded. It's supposed to be about what makes Choate notable.

Alternative formats

Alternatively, you could group buildings by time period, by notable contributions that built them, or any of several other ways than a simple, boring (to me) list. I can tell you that only a prospective college parent might be interested in "Clinton Knight House and McCook House: Built 1966, designed by Frank Winder '39; twin white-brick dormitories, each forming a quadrangle with central skylight atrium." (Disclosure: I was webmaster for the University of the Pacific for three years and overhauled their entire web site. I did not publish long lists of buildings there, and neither does Choate on their web site.)

Don't rely on peer articles

Rather than rely on the poor practices of peer articles, I suggest you consider a little longer look at how the lists could, whenever possible, be incorporated into the body of the article as relevant, contextually useful, bits of information. I'm sure you would like this article to stand out from the crowd and set the standard of how to write a really great prep school article. I encourage you to dig in and do the necessary work to make notable information really useful to the reader.

BTW, don't forget to sign your posts with four tildes: ~~~~ This automatically appends your signature to your post.

Possible sub-articles

At 83Kb, the article exceeds the recommended length for articles. I suggest you consider creating a separate article for the Alumni list, a perfect use of lists, and a separate article for the mind-numbingly long History timeline. (Pardon me, but who is going to really want to read that??!! Personally, I don't think the History timeline adds any value to the article. If there are notable points in history that should be included, insert them into the body of the text. There is NO WAY that anything notable is going to be found in the History timeline as it is currently formatted.)

-- btphelps ^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:27, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Overall bias in article

I believe that this article as a whole is quite biased and reads like a promotional brochure from the admissions office. I suggest that only historical or general information be presented, rather than the intricacies of student accomplishments and programs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tigerman20 (talk • contribs) 15:04, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit history of Gakio-Walton Scholarship as of 19:29, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I copied the entire contents of Gakio-Walton Scholarship into Choate Rosemary Hall#Gakio-Walton International Scholars Program a few minutes ago. In case the page, which will soon be a redirect, is ever deleted, here is its attribution history.

Edit history of Gakio-Walton Scholarship as of 19:29, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

06:42, 7 January 2014‎ AnomieBOT‎ (2,662 bytes) (+18)‎ (Dating maintenance tags: {{Afd-mergeto}})
06:21, 7 January 2014‎ Courcelles‎ (2,644 bytes) (-334)‎ (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gakio-Walton Scholarship closed as merge to Choate Rosemary Hall)
05:52, 30 December 2013‎ AnomieBOT‎ (2,978 bytes) (+19)‎ (Dating maintenance tags: {{Merge-to}})
05:31, 30 December 2013‎ Davidwr‎ (2,959 bytes) (+99)‎ ({{merge-to|Choate Rosemary Hall|discuss=Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gakio-Walton Scholarship}} - yes, I know that merger discussions are normally not done at AFD, see AFD for details)
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04:44, 30 December 2013‎ Davidwr‎ (2,771 bytes) (+413)‎ (Nominated for deletion; see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gakio-Walton Scholarship. (TW))
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16:59, 24 December 2013‎ Quincytzboy‎ (2,403 bytes) (+1)‎ (This is the fastest way for the people to look up this specific scholarship, and it is recommended that this article remain as is. Additionally, the categories "Scholarships in the United States" and "Student financial aid" continue to list it.)
16:55, 24 December 2013‎ Quincytzboy‎ (2,402 bytes) (-246)‎ (News for this cannot be found in Google News, and hence it is particularly notable in this sense, but a number of more secondary sources have been added so it should now be good.)
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davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 19:29, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Linkspam

There are a lot of links in the article to Choate's own web-site. This is linkspam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.247.174 (talk) 11:26, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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In Choate

When someone starts out at Choate are they inchoate? Just for a grin.Ealtram (talk) 20:26, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and this is probably a good idea for a T-shirt. Jehochman ^Talk 13:50, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Timesline

The timeline on this article is excessively long and detailed. I recommend somebody more familiar with the topic than me go through and (1) trim it down to the most important events, and (2) find references for those events. Jehochman ^Talk 13:49, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. For example, in 1986 a certain tapestry was hung. In 2005 an alumnus won a Tony Award. It all reads as if the intended audience is the CRH community. They are probably interested in such trivia. Wikipedia would be better without it. Mgnbar (talk) 13:55, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Derek Oatis

In April 1984, Choate upperclassman Derek Oatis flew to Venezuela over spring break and returned with 350 grams of cocaine in his shaving kit. He also possessed a list of fellow Choate students from whom he’d collected money to finance the drug purchase. U.S. customs, performing a “cold hit” or random search at Kennedy airport, found the drugs and arrested Oatis. Sixteen other students were implicated in the scheme. Twelve were expelled. None served jail time; they were penalized by probation and fines. At a sentencing hearing in Federal District Court on November 21, 1985, Oatis’s parents tearfully begged for leniency. Judge T.F. Gilroy Daly – an alumnus of Fairfield Prep, Georgetown, and Yale – gave Oatis 5 years’ probation and 5,000 hours of community service.

[1]https://archives.law.virginia.edu/dengrove/writeup/derek-oatis 45.13.210.223 (talk) 07:41, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This history have been depicted in the film The Preppie Connection — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.13.210.223 (talk) 07:46, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]