Talk:Chinese archery

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TODO

Hi, I'm interested in expanding this article. So far I've updated information about Chinese bow designs to reflect current sources as well as recent archaeological findings. My next objective is to add a section describing Chinese archery technique. -Jtma (Dec. 16, 2010) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jtma (talk • contribs) 06:08, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. So far I've added sections about Chinese bow designs as well as technique. I've started filling out a "historical uses" section. I still need to add discussion about ritual and examination archery. Depending on how complete I make it, I may add an additional chronology mentioning significant events in Chinese archery history. A section about "legends" is also a possibility (although it would be very important to avoid mixing legend with history). - Jtma (talk) 18:55, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have finished my initial round of edits. I will look into getting this article's stub status reevaluated. - Jtma (talk) 19:16, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Commentary

Good article, almost B-class. A few comments:

I would recommend re-direct brackets concerning some of the bow-shapes, such as bow shape#deflex bow when talking about the deflex bow.
While it looks sufficiently referenced for B-class, I think page numbers have to be included for the next higher class.
I assessed "coverage" as "no" because I thought the article could benefit from a section on arrows. Were they all the same? Were there many types of arrow heads for ritual, exam, hunting, warfare, etc.? Did they have the specialized arrowheads, as in Japan, that could be used as whistling signals? I read once that in southern China they used a thin type of bamboo reed for arrows. Did you find anything about this? What kinds of arrowheads have been found in archaeological contexts?

Good luck. Boneyard90 (talk) 07:58, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Peter Dekker and Selby

Peter Dekker's Manchu archery website is not a reliable source. He is not a historian but is an amateur arms collector and auctioneer. He is not a reliable source for the history of archery and not even for archery mechanics (draw weight, poundage) because he doesn't have qualifications for those too. If no one can show Dekker's PhD in archery history or mechanics I will remove his citation and contents from the article. Selby isn't a historian either and he shouldn't be used as a source for archery history. And there is also an uncited paragraph I deleted but was reverted.

This policy specifically.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources

Dekker does not have a degree in Asian history or archery history, he doesn't speak Chinese, Manchu or Mongol.

Hukris (talk) 08:28, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]