Talk:Children's Games (Bruegel)/Archive 1

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Wonderful! A delightful explanation

I only had a small typo to fix, but wanted to compliment you for your amusing and insightful comments. Of all Bruegel's works (that I've seen), this is the most accessible. Thanks for the chuckle and the memories. If I see anything to add I will leave a post with my suggestion.

Marottawriter (talk) 03:01, 8 March 2012 (UTC)marottawriter

raisinbread man

In the USA, we call him the "Gingerbread Man."

Marottawriter (talk) 03:13, 8 March 2012 (UTC)marottawriter

#24 Mock Tournaments

These have always been popular, with one competitor riding on the other's back. The object seems to be to keep possession of a leather cord tied into a ring. Here, we see a clever strategy with backup support from a third team member on each side. Perhaps this also helped prevent cracked heads.

Marottawriter (talk) 03:21, 8 March 2012 (UTC)marottawriter

Section on specific games

(diff) The section on specific games with the close-up images needs to be sourced to reliable, secondary source or removed. Right now it's a hotbed for original research and we need to make sure that all kept claims are verifiable. czar 16:09, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

#37 "How many goat horns?"

I've played a game that looks like that, but did not have that name or objective. The kids divide into two teams, and one team makes a horse by having a person stand and then others lean over and grab the waist of the person in front. Then the other team tries to jump on and ride the horse. If the horse collapses, the riders win, if the horse holds, the horse wins. Then the teams reverse roles. --Elijah (talk) 04:51, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Here's a version of it being played in Korea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWp8NR-wY58 --Elijah (talk) 18:50, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Yes - and there were no slaps. Here in Italy it had several names, depending on the city. You can see an old photograph here and here and here. The horse (made up of kids) was still and the first child of the other team had to leap the more he could towards the "head" of the horse (id est the wall) in order to create more space for the other children of its team, who had to jump after him. If the horse did not fall then the horse won, if it fell it lost. Then the teams swapped. I reckon that the "slap" thing should be erased; I cannot find anything similar.

Because I found another name in english I am changing it.

--EntroDipintaGabbia (talk) 00:58, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

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Specific game terms

I couldn't find the exact correspondent in English for some of the popular child's games, so I just described them per Bruegel's illustration. Any assistance in completing the table would really be appreciated (especially from those who can remember their childhood...).--Smintheus Fellin (talk) 10:04, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

This is awesome! Great contribution. Ian.w.t.n (talk) 18:07, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

I wonder if the child 'Stirring excrements with a stick' is in fact preparing for the game from which we drive the expression 'the wrong end of the stick'? It's an 'initiation' rite in which a new (and unsuspecting) child is blindfolded and invited to blunder about until they find and grab the 'sceptre' (which has been dipped in faeces), thereby becoming 'king of the playground'. The blindfold game proceeding nearby might be associated. Note the 'close stool' (portable lavatory) adjacent, to make clear of what the substance being stirred consists. Bluedawe 22:51, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the "The Games" section is neither "awesome" nor a "great contribution." On Wikipedia, editors are required to cite their sources, and original research is prohibited. This section has zero sources cited, and is 100% original research. I have added the appropriate flags to the section, but the best solution may be to simply remove the section altogether.

#77 Dethroning the King

In the USA, we call this "King of the Hill." Essentially the same game, as you see it.

Marottawriter (talk) 03:24, 8 March 2012 (UTC)marottawriter

Agreed. Added a link.

Mlvezie (talk) 16:32, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

And in the British Commonwealth, 'King of the Castle'.

There is a rhyme that the 'king' chants as a challenge to the other players:

'I'm the King of the Castle. 'You're the dirty rascal.'

It has a primitive melody, with the traditional falling minor third of children's playground chants. Akin to 'See Saw, Margery Daw' Bluedawe 22:58, 9 September 2020 (UTC)