Talk:Child in Time
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Copyright concerns
[edit]Isn't it copyright violation to include the lyrics like that? Also, this article doesn't cite any sources. Frederik Holden 07:03, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Not if the band hasnt said it doesnt want its lyrics to be shown without permission, i think
The included lyrics are from a live version, as heard on Made In Japan, and not precisely same as the original lyrics. Whether that's an excuse, I'm not an expert to say. /Renne 15:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Plagerism?
[edit]I fail to see how lifting a simple riff from another song can be classed here as plagerism; the lyrics , and solos etc are all Purple's work. If this assumption is extended to rock music in general then most bands are guilty!! Harryurz 21:19, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Please take that Anu Malik trivia out, I'm from India and I know he can't inspire, he completely steals them, he has even stolen "Godfather" theme, and even titatic theme recently, I think that that should be enough, although there is more.
Dubious
[edit]I think 'stole' is a little excessive. It's obvious that Deep Purple's "Hush" stole its melody from The Beatles' "A Day in the Life" (granted it was written by somebody else), but nobody is complaining. In the music and film industry, 'jacking' other peoples' riffs and melodies is just what happens. I mean at this point, we're running out of 100% unique combinations of notes in a two-measure time frame =). iNaNimAtE 21:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, i happen to be an Indian and I have heard the version by Anu Malik in question and I can confidently state that it is a note-for-note copy of the song without any variation whatsoever so while 'stolen' may be too strong, 'copied' would be better for an encyclopedia but there is no doubt that he copied it. Nothing is altered, not the tempo or anything. The only change is that the organ bit in the middle is played on a flute. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 125.16.221.133 (talk)
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=P2bhDV8ZIpI - It's what the Wikipedia article says, only the words are changed. "Plagarised" might be a better word for it, but "stolen" is not too far off. --58.108.254.116 (talk) 09:43, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Meaning of lyrics
[edit]This article lacks something about the subject and meaning of the lyrics. David.Monniaux (talk) 23:27, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- It sounds like the borderline within a borderline person's character (personality). Sigmund Freud and his follower Karl König pointed out, that such a person has grown up with an age of 2 years in an environment with aggressive parents. Such a person cannot find a long term job and he/ she cannot find a attitude for "partially good and partially bad at the same time". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.59.51.168 (talk) 21:24, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Genre
[edit]Why was progressive rock removed from the genre spot? It's a very progressive-sounding song. And just because the band was a heavier rock outfit doesn't mean it could not be progressive. Their first three albums were like that, and it maintained that psychedelic prog rock sound in some form on the rest of the '70s albums. Krobertj (talk) 13:50, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
- Some could hold that opinion. But opinions need to be checked at the door on Wikipedia. It's all about the references from reliable sources. The box needs to reflect the cited text in the article. The Real Libs-speak politely 14:15, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
- Child in Time is a progressive rock piece and in no way it is heavy metal. No one source in article say it is heavy metal. Meanwhile, there's an article on the band's own website about it, thay says: "This is “progressive rock” in the most positive sense of that much-maligned term." And also Child in Time is included in compilation albums like "Best Prog Rock Album in the World" sort. It should be changed back - not a single source supports "heavy metal". Garret Beaumain (talk) 13:10, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
- I too support the prog tag for this song, but the metal tag says as well. I'm pretty sure that the song was included in Martin Popoff's book of The top 500 heavy metal songs though some non metal songs did somehow slip onto that list as well. Rockgenre (talk) 21:43, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
concerto for group and orchestra
[edit]It seems that while 'in rock' was recorded in 1970, 'child in time' had been already performed as part of the concerto in 1969. Shouldn't it be mentioned somehow? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.81.4.50 (talk) 06:50, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
Led Zeppelin Reference(?)
[edit]"If you've been bad - Lord I bet you have / And you've not been not been hit by flying lead"... is there a possibility this references Led Zeppelin, the other british band that was spawning heavy metal and was achieving popularity in the year before with their two "very heavy at the time debut albums (Led Zeppelin I and Led Zeppelin II)" (both released in 1969) which sound might have influenced the sound of Deep Purple's second lineup? "Hit by FLYING (a zeppelin flies, duh) LEAD(It was clear back then that the name was supposed to pronounced like lead the metal substance)?". Led Zeppelin were garnering more attention than Deep Purple which had tried other genres in the years beforehand and when Purple started experimenting with heavier sounds with the second lineup, Led Zeppelin got there before they (Purple) did. I think it might definetly be a reference to Led Zeppelin... should this be put on the page?99.239.192.185 (talk) 04:39, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
- How about it's a reference to bullets? FLYING (it gets shot from a gun, propelled forward) LEAD (Bullets are generally made from lead). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.21.118.151 (talk) 18:06, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
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Article contradicts itself, Vietnam war vs Cold war
[edit]The page initially claims it's an anti-Vietnam war song yet later Ian Gillan is quoted as saying the song is about the Cold war (i.e. The West vs Soviet Union). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:A61:342B:8100:18EE:37E1:1CA0:2937 (talk) 11:21, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
- "See the blind man shooting at the world bullets flying taking toll" doesn't sound like cold war... Alright. --FK1954 (talk) 21:15, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- This might be a metaphor where “blind man” is a politician and his “bullets” taking toll of hate worldwide. — Voxamarkin (talk) 19:03, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- I agree, he said it. The interview is on YouTube. Since nobody has responded here with evidence to the contrary, I changed it. Ozric14 (talk) 20:37, 29 July 2021 (UTC)