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Fascism?

Chiangism is not a fascist ideology at all. Many articles related to Japanese ultranationalists during World War II do not use the 'fascism' category. Using the "fascism" category in a Chiangism article is very silly. Japanese are not fascists during the Second Sino-Japanese War, but is Chiang fascist? Above all, Chiangism partially imitated fascism, but like the Japanese ultranationalists, it was greatly separated from the core elements of fascism.

Even in the Metaxism article, which was a member of the Allies, the 'fascism' category is not used. Chiangism was the ideology of the Allies against the anti-Axis. Like the Metaxism article, the "fascism" category should also be removed from the Chiangism article. I've never seen a case of proper fascism experts like Roger Griffin describing Chiang as a "fascist."

Prior to 1945, Chiang was not so cruel. After losing in the Second Chinese Civil War, the white terror attacks in Taiwan were very brutal. However, calling it a 'fascist' for white terrorism is very inaccurate academically, no different from calling Ngo Dinh Diem or Park Chung-hee a 'fascist'; Diem or Park also participated in anti-communist white terrorism as much as Chiang during the Cold War, and unlike Chiang, who was even an anti-fascist Allies, Diem and Park joined the Axis Powers of the Japanese Empire.

See Definitions of fascism#"Fascist" as an insult. Calling Chiang a fascist is just insult, both in the past and now.

Category:Fascism in China and Category:Fascism in Taiwan should be removed immediately. ProKMT (talk) 08:48, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chiang Kai-shek was not a fascist. He was a brutal right-wing dictator who massacred hundreds of thousands of civilians. However, he wanted a transition to a system of “sham democracy” in the Mainland era, albeit one strictly controlled and dominated by the nationalists, similar to the “democracy” in the ROK before democratic transition.

Still, he later gave up trying to transition into a democracy when his regime was relocated to Taiwan. He suspended the democracy and civil rights of the ROC constitution, and ruled as a life dictator. LeonChrisfield (talk) 14:15, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]