Talk:Cherry Valentine/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 07:52, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for reviewing. I believe I've addressed your concerns below. One thing: I cannot access the Guardian piece to know how the article's text should possibly be modified. Are you able to make a quick change, or share the Guardian text for comparative purposes? Please let me know if anything else is needed here. Thanks again! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:14, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

@Another Believer, if you mean the Telegraph piece, just check Earwig which has the text. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 21:05, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

There is also one other thing to check: Metro. If you're using it just for pronouns, looks like this Vulture piece also has the he/they mentions and is more reliable. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 21:07, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

@Sammi Brie Oh, thanks! I made these minor changes and linked "came out" to Coming out. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:17, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

@Another Believer Looks good. See my suggestion to replace the Metro source with Vulture. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 21:20, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

@Sammi Brie  Done diff ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:30, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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No serious issues. Might want to tweak a bit of phrasing in one passage. There are some copy edits, and I'll also teach you about table captions while we're here. No issues beyond that; should not take long, Another Believer. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:52, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Wonderful, thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:47, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Copy changes

• De-hyphenate "alter ego"
  •  Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:08, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
• second series' should be "series's", MOS:'S
  •  Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:08, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
• Discussing his background on Drag Race UK, Ward said he grew up in a strict environment in which drag was not accepted and as part of the LGBTQIA+ community, he hid his Traveller heritage because he feared he might receive "hate or backlash". The second comma, after "community", should be a semicolon. User:Sammi Brie/Commas in sentences
  •  Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:08, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
• And for the same reason, you need a comma in Ward left home when he was 18 and he returned to the Traveller community after "18"
  •  Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:08, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
• The semicolon after "Tia Kofi" should be a comma.
  •  Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:08, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Sourcing and spot checks

Earwig turned up no issues. The largest-percentage sources mostly flag work titles and such banal phrases as "was eliminated in the second episode". I do wonder if Ward came out by writing a letter to his parents before running away from home for a week, after which his parents individually took him for a drive and talked but did not discuss his sexual orientation after that incident. could be rephrased slightly to bring it a little further from the Telegraph source.

There are five Headbomb-highlighted sources. One is a video from the BBC (geoblocked, I note). Three are primary sources (music videos and an ABOUTSELF Instagram post). The fifth is from Metro, generally unreliable. Is there a better source than Metro?

Five sources were chosen for spot checks:

• 2: The Telegraph obituary is used five times and checks out for claims such as the mechanic career and lip-sync with Tayce. Y
• 12: Official listing of an event shows Cherry Valentine as being on the tour. Y
• 18: BBC News obituary gives date of death and death age. Y
• 26: The reference is the music video in this case.
• 27: NME article on "Good Ones" video. Y

Other items

• References are archived.
• The image is fair use (subject is dead) and has an NFUR. Add alt text.
• Another accessibility thing you didn't know. MOS:DTAB stipulates that all tables should have captions (headers). For a table where the table is immediately below a section header—all of them, in this case—you can use {{sronly}} to hide the header to all but screen reader users. I've done two of the tables as a demo.
  •  Done Hopefully correctly ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:11, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

  Yep, that's it. Not part of GA spec, of course, but something I do like to tell advanced editors. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 21:06, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

  Like ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:30, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

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