Talk:Cheroot

Cheroots, (pronounced: shroots with a soft t) are at present commonly sold all over Myanmar, at convenience stores and locations where they are hand rolled as a local business. Various sizes are made by or are available to local people. Small and thin is the size commonly sold across the counter in shops and markets. It is a light smoke similar to a small cigar. Most people do not inhale them smoke. At present they seem to be commercially unavailable outside of Myanmar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.249.121.254 (talk) 06:25, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

There's a lot of interesting info on this page, but it's not all "about" cheroots. Some of it (e.g. Mark Twain's death date) I trimmed; the rest I left. But it does read a bit like an ad for Avanti cigars. I didn't want to destroy value by removing the text, but editors who know more about the subject than I do might want to re-arrange the article so it's more focused on cheroots. Some of the anecdotal stuff could use references, too. -- Metahacker 00:44, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

This article could easily do without the last two of the Mark Twain paragraphs The remainder of that section should then be merged to the previous one. Another thing, I'm a bit confused over the smell of cheroots. Are they universally stinky? Or are just cheap machine-made ones stinky? Frotz661 10:48, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Italian Toscani and Brazilian Charutos

These are longstanding, highly significant and sizable cheroot cigar-making traditions. They should be included here. Indeed, the word cheroot probably came into English from Portuguese, not French.

There are large articles in the Italian and Portuguese Wikipedias.

208.87.248.162 (talk) 01:04, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I second that comment, especially considering the Portuguese were more closely active with the Tamil than the French. Also, I've found an etymological source that cites Portuguese as the transition language. 71.57.186.90 (talk) 21:42, 3 January 2012 (UTC)Tom in Florida.

Inconsistency: The shape of a cheroot is described differently here & on the page cigar. This page describes a cheroot as cylindrical; the cigar page describes a cylindrical cigar as a parejo, except that the latter would normally have a cap at one end. A few lines later, describing the Italian cigar (toscano), which has a distinctive elongated football or double-conic shape, the cigar article calls this a cheroot with a link to this page. It states: "The typical Italian cigar ... [is] a long, tough, slim cigar thicker in the middle and tapered at the ends, with a very strong aroma. It is also known as a cheroot, which is the largest selling cigar shape in the United States." According to the Oxford Dictionary , the distinguishing characteristic of a cheroot is that it is open (i.e. cut) at both ends, whereas almost all other cigars are capped at the unlit end.

I have also seen in National Geographic a photo of a Burmese cigar described as a cheroot which was very large & conical (Kipling: "a whacking white cheroot"). See also Meridien Weekly Republican article on news.google.com for a similar picture; the article states "the Burmese cheroot is not a stogy" [italics mine].

I am reluctant to edit the respective articles to correct the inconsistency as I am not a cigar expert. D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 03:45, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

References

Terrible, Confusing Article

So what is a Cheroot? Is it a plant? Another name for tobacco? There is a photo of a cheroot leaf from Burma, and since tobacco was discovered by Europeans in the Americas, it must not be tobacco, since trading with the middle and far east was going on before Americas discovery. Why all the reference to stogies and conastoga wagons, since they are traditional cigars with round uncut ends made of tobacco. If cheroot is a plant, why isn't there a description of the plant? Does it have nicotine? Or is cheroot a name for a smallish rolled tobacco cigar? A cigar made from cheroot? I usually find good information on wikipedia, but this is a mish-mash of stogie-talk.Flight Risk (talk) 07:42, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Once upon a time (1970s) I used to buy and smoke cheroots, from UK tobacconists. They were cheap - much cheaper than even cheap cigars; they were about the length of a modern tipped cigarette, and twice the thickness. They were cylindrical (no taper or bulge), and chopped square at each end. They were sold as a bundle of about 8-10, wrapped with a string (although it was possible to buy them as loose singles). There was no other packaging, apart from perhaps a brown paper bag. They had a dark brown, slightly oily appearance (darker than e.g. Cuban cigars). They had a strong smell and taste - quite harsh. I vaguely remember that these were sold as 'burma cheroots'. No doubt there were other kinds. I imagine that they were terrible for your health.

The main body of this article seems to comprise mainly quotes from writers associated with the British Raj. There certainly isn't enough cited, relevant material in the body to support the content in the lede. MrDemeanour (talk) 13:12, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Why does "stogie" redirect here?

If it means the same thing as "cheroot" one would expect the article to say so; but the word does not appear at all. 96.250.80.27 (talk) 18:15, 2 September 2021 (UTC)