Talk:Charles Tristan, marquis de Montholon

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If this is the 1911 Britannica article, Britannica should hang its head in shame. For the many people who believe Napoleon was murdered, deMontholon is the favorite suspect, the only plausible one, at that. Furthermore, deMontholon's military exploits were all made up, and he was once convicted of stealing his soldiers' payroll. It is now generally recognized that whether he murdered Bonaparte or not, he was a first-class scoundrel.

See Schama's Napoleon Bonaparte (link to an Amazon "Search Inside" for Montholon) Dan Lovejoy 07:22, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

In 1911 there were no reasons for believing Napoleon had been poisoned and so no need to look for an assassin. The assassination theory and its supporting evidence are the fruit of modern forensic investigation techniques. Further, while the evidence that Napoleon was poisoned is physical and very clear, the evidence identifying the culprit is circumstantial; Montholon is at most a likely suspect. Cheers, Vincent 02:36, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have written a summary of the present-day state of knowledge on the issue. It can be found here. I am not an expert just an ordinary sceptic with a reluctant fascination for Napoléon. As long as you refrain from ad hominem attacks on me questioners will be answered to the best of my ability.

2014-10-01 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden.

I don't think Charles own book on his time on Saint Helena should be used as a source. His description differs radically from other people's eyewitness accounts. The the extant his matches other ones they are thought to be plagiarized from Barry Edward O'Meara's and Gaspard Gourgaud's which had already been published. Charles' description it contains so many absurdities it is not credible anyway. That people once believed him was only due to social class prejudice. This is not a reliable way to search for the objective truth about the past.

2014-01-11 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden.

Birth year

Was he not really born in 1783? According to Sten Forshufvud Charles was a frequent liar. He may had lied about his age claiming to be one year older than he was. What is known from other sources than himself?

2009-03-02 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden.

Portrait

A better portrait of Charles can be found here. It has considerable beautification as well but it is at least less misleading. The picture has no copyright. If there originally was any it has expired by now.

2010-12-29 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden.

Poisoned Napolean

Why would he have poisoned Napolean? --Badger151 (talk) 13:13, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you wonder about motif I don’t know much about it. Sten Forshufvud have suggested revenge for the murder of Louis Antoine de Capet. This requires either a close emotional relationship between Louis and Charles or the existence of an assigner. Otherwise I realy don’t know.

2013-08-17 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden.