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 – ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:42, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! 10mmsocket (talk) 16:47, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at John Montagu, 11th Earl of Sandwich that is what a template is for elected Hereditary Peers which are still in the House of Lords. There are more.

It's easy to solve this. Provide a reference that he was one of the ones included. How you format the information, which you have shown, is irrelevant if it isn't properly sourced. --10mmsocket (talk) 09:28, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
He is an elected Hereditary Peer since 1999, look at the others. 86.191.237.115 (talk) 14:29, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:BURDEN - it is up to you as the one updating a page to provide references. 10mmsocket (talk) 18:53, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
OK but it is a fact if you look at the Elected Hereditary Peers who have remained since 1999, also can you amend John McFall (British Politician) to its rightful link please as Life Peers do not have that link. 86.191.237.115 (talk) 00:02, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Look at 1999 House of Lords elections for your pleasure and see the elected peers86.191.237.115 (talk) 00:04, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Again, read WP:BURDEN. Facts are only facts on Wikipedia pages if they have references. If there are supporting references on the other page you mention, then add that to this article. 10mmsocket (talk) 08:09, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Look at Michael Brougham, 5th Baron Brougham and Vaux and look at Charles Chetwynd-Talbot, 22nd Earl of Shrewsbury.
That is what an elected Hereditary Peer template should be if they have been continuous since 1999.
Look at:
Elected by the Whole House
Elected by the Conservative Group
Elected by the Crossbench Group
Please just look at the articles and I know I am right. Also look at the example 86.191.237.115 (talk) 00:28, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

10mmsocket does not like this on the Earl of Shrewsbury as nearly all Elected Hereditary Peers have this, I have the elected Whole House to do. 86.191.237.115 (talk) 19:13, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to echo 10mmsocket's comments - do you actually have a reliable source for this? Otherwise it's a waste of time going on about it given WP:VNT. There's no onus on him to look up pages to check the information - it's up to you to prove you are correct with a reliable, published source. Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 19:22, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It is a fact though
Look at this article [1]
I hope this helps.
P.S.Happy New Year. 86.191.237.115 (talk) 01:02, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That specific article isn't really a reliable source WP:RS. Can you find another external-to-wikipedia article, maybe even Hansard or whatever the House of Lords equivalent is (if it's different), or some news report from a UK broadsheet? Very happy to help you format it if you can find it. 10mmsocket (talk) 01:11, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
And yes, happy new year, here's to a productive 2023 on Wikipedia and in real life. 10mmsocket (talk) 01:11, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Try any of this link https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld/ldjournal.htm 86.191.237.115 (talk) 18:36, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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