Talk:Charles Allan Marris

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A fact from Charles Allan Marris appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 11 December 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that in The Arraignment of Paris, poet Denis Glover stated Charles Allan Marris was the "arbiter of all our art and letters / presenting rotten apples to his betters"?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Charles Allan Marris.

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 21:34, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that in The Arraignment of Paris, poet Denis Glover stated Charles Allan Marris was the "arbiter of all our art and letters / presenting rotten apples to his betters"? Source: Dictionary of New Zealand Biography

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tom Grogan

5x expanded by Therapyisgood (talk). Self-nominated at 22:32, 29 November 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting literary person, fine expansion, but on one source, - is there anything else? Just asking. In the article, I don't think the death is lead material, and believe that the typical obit phrasing (survived ...) should be changed to the normal style (was married ...) Sorry, I am not happy with the hook. It's a long quote which I'm not sure I even understand, mentions an unknown unlinked publication, and an unknown linked one who wrote that, - that tells me too little about our subject, not NZ, not what he did ... - please try something else. Even in the aarticle, the quote seems not self-explanatory. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:09, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: cut death from article lead. Changed wording around son and daughters. Added context around quote in article. How about:

Alt 1: ... that due to his ~~Gregorian~~ Georgian ideals, New Zealand editor Charles Allan Marris was often in conflict with avant-garde poets such as Denis Glover? Therapyisgood (talk) 22:58, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

thank you, and I leave the choice to the prep builder. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:04, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT0 to T:DYK/P6