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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by ClydeFranklin talk 00:50, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The painting made by Adolf Hitler

... that the Chapel of St. Roch was painted (pictured) by Adolf Hitler in 1912? Source: Gallery with the paintings by Adolf Hitler (from 1824 to 1933)

Created by V.B.Speranza (talk). Self-nominated at 03:16, 12 October 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Chapel of St. Roch, Vienna; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

I'll take a look. Schwede 66 00:17, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
First obvious problem is that this article is a direct translation of the German version without that being declared. With that declaration missing, it is technically a copyright violation. WP:TFOLWP explains what must be done. Beyond that, there is an some tidy-up necessary, as German text appears and referencing mistakes show up. Referencing is not up to scratch; what's unreferenced in the German edition isn't referenced here either. With the unreferenced paragraph removed, the article is just a touch over 1500 bytes of readable prose, i.e. only just long enough. The article was created four days ago, i.e. it's new. It's neutral. While I don't doubt that the painting is indeed Hitler's (as can be seen by his signature) and 1912 is stated on the painting, I'm not sure whether we can call the source a WP:RS; could others who know more about picryl.com or GetArchive please comment? My hunch is that it should be ok and I note that the painting is also listed in the article paintings by Adolf Hitler. The hook is certainly interesting and would do rather well, with or without being the lead hook. Earwig, of both the English and German versions, is clean. The nominator has no DYK credits, hence is QPQ-exempt. Schwede 66 01:17, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not Speranza, but I've made a dummy edit with attribution and added {{translated page}}. Clyde _{[trout needed]} 06:47, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Much appreciated. Schwede 66 07:35, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ping V.B.Speranza since it never seems they were pinged or got a notice on their talk page. Clyde _{[trout needed]} 23:46, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. My expectation is that a nominator watchlists their nomination, hence does not require a ping. Schwede 66 18:12, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth, not every editor reads their watchlist, and not every editor watches their nominations, so a ping and/or talk page message is still more reliable. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:49, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Despite a ping and a talk page message, and despite the nominator being active elsewhere, they have not responded to the review nor addressed the comments raised above. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:01, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Closing as rejected due to lack of improvement. Clyde _{[trout needed]} 00:48, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback from New Page Review process

I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Good work.

CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} 16:27, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

More feedback: we aren't supposed to surround text with images, so I would move the painting down into its own area. Also, if I was in charge of the Chapel, I wouldn't be happy with Wikipedia highlighting it with a painting of Hitler. It should not be given such prominence. Viriditas (talk) 21:40, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]