Talk:Chandrashekharendra Saraswati VIII/Archive 1
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The article read like a poorly written encomium, not an encyclopædia article. It needs a thorough rewrite and cleanup. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 19:45, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
This article is plain SLANDER
I wonder how Wikipedia allowed the contents to be posted thus. Even Hitler has a better entry here. Will Wikipedians please look into this and give a complete perspective, biography and history of Kanchi Paramacharya.
He may not be Saint of the most revered order, but certainly not the way the lead paragraph has mentioned.
Nattu 15:48, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
This page should be renamed to Chandrasekharendra Saraswati. He is no more commonly called 'Chandrasekharendra Saraswati Kanchi Mahaswamigal' in common usage, than Queen Elizabeth II is called 'Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith' (her formal title). Imc 19:47, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- I understand your concern. However, please consider the case of Queen Elizabeth II. "Queen" is not part of her name either. The existing name of the article for Queen Elizabeth II is Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom. Note that this title specifies of what she is queen. I have difficulty seeing that great a contrast between 'Chandrasekharendra Saraswati Kanchi Mahaswamigal' and Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom. --BostonMA 21:43, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- I was only trying to use Elizabeth II as an example. My prime contention, also stated on the page for the naming proposals, is that Chandrasekharendra Saraswati is commonly called just that. Whereas Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi for instance, is commonly called Mahatma Gandhi. If a title is applied to Chandrasekharendra Saraswati outside of the circle of followers of the KKP, that title is usually Shankaracharya, not Kanchi Mahaswamigal. Imc 18:25, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- The orignal title for the article when it was created in July 2005 was Kanchi Paramacharya. It was changed a few weeks later to Kanchi Mahaswamigal. It remained with that title for another six months, until I renamed it a few weeks ago. I do not have strong opinions one way or the other regarding what should be the policy. I could find no policy, so I did what seemed right at the time. However, the fact that the article was named and editted as Kanchi Mahaswamigal for a significant period of time suggests that perhaps Chandrasekharendra Saraswati is known by that appellation by more people than you might suspect. There may be other explanations. Please consider these points, then do what you think is best. (If you are in India, then I am half hour late, but otherwise, happy Republic Day). --BostonMA 18:55, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks BostonMA. I think it would be better not to have names loaded with titles, unless it is the normal usage. But I'll not change anything now either, waiting for any other opinions. Imc 16:53, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
I would assume that wikipedia is eventually going to be filled with topics on more Shankaracharayas in the Kanchi lineage. Our periyavaa is not the first Chandrasekharendra Saraswathi but the VIIth. Adding "Kanchi Mahaswamigal" would be a good way to dintinguish him from the previous acharayas with the same name. Also "Indra Saraswathi" (Chandrasekara + Indra Saraswathi == Chandrasekharendera Saraswathi) suffix is a generic one given to sanyasis by certain lineage gurus. So potentially there could be other sanyasis with the name "Chandrasekharendra Saraswathi". Hence the suffix of "Kanchi Mahaswamigal" would be a good one. Alternatively we can say "Chandrasekharendra Saraswathi VII Kanchi Shankaracharya". But calling him "Mahaswamigal" comes very natural for many of us. --Venkat 11:29PM 21 February 2006 (IST)
Too many quotations, no information
This article is a collection of quotes. It provides no information on the man. Please fix this, or I shall nominate for deletion... Sfacets 04:28, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
I support the above claim Nattu 12:26, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Chandrasekharendra saraswathi swamigal headed the kanchi mutt for 87 years. His life was full of penance, simplicity, truth, unimaginable humbleness. He was highly learned in various sashtras of several religions in the world. His utterly selfless life, perfection to the core sanyasa life has atracted great personalities like mahathma Gandhi, Mother teresa, Dalai lama who where all praise of this very great personality. Please understand that we are talking about a person who has guided several thousands of people to live in the path of dharma.
Merge proposal
This article should be merged with Chandrasekharendra Saraswati Kanchi Mahaswamigal as both of them refer to the same person.
--Sankarrukku 15:07, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- It doesn't require discussion, it's a no-brainer. I went ahead and merged the articles. --Brewcrewer 03:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- The merging was done incorrectly. Chandrasekharendra Saraswati Kanchi Mahaswamigal is now redirected to Chandrasekharendra Saraswati. Parthi talk/contribs 05:51, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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A few incidents from Devottees experience with the Mahaswami and a few more citings to his speeches and research would make this article better. I would like suggestions from readers to do the same. --Sriraman C Iyer, Sri Guru Krupa, Abhiramapuramsrira 18:36, 17 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Chandrashekarendra Saraswati is addresses in Tamilnadu as "Kanji Periyavar". The word "Periyavar" means a wise man. But, that term is mentioned wrongly here, as "Periyavaa". There is no word in the language "Tamil" like that. The term "Periyavaa" being the primary one used here to address one of the famous saints of the century isn't proper. So, I request you people to change that to "Periyavar", the right word. Thanks. Umash wiki (talk) 20:58, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. General Ization Talk 21:49, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
Dtls about Maha Mrityunjaya manthram
Most of the books/readings and audios its pronounced as "Oorvaruga miga BANDHANADH and in very few as BANDHANAN, which am told as the correct one. We need clarification and the correct word/pronunciation. Tks Narasimhan Ramaswamy email " narasimhanramaswamy660@gmail.com Phone 7010680887 Narasimhan Ramaswamy (talk) 10:25, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Need to improve the entire article with strong citations backing the information
The titan called Chandrashekarendra Saraswati, is a great spiritual leader of India who walked the length and breadth of the country to promote spiritual peace in the true spirit of asceticism. The article here in the present form, does not do justice to his glorious lifestyle and very little is done to ameliorate the mistakes. There are enough content available from news paper articles, to voice inputs to visual videos that can show how great of a man he was. Testimonials from around the world need to be included. However, such effort is not made, partly because of immense lack of knowledge of his towering stature. I will try to provide as much as data as I can, with relevant citations and sources, to strengthen the Wikipedia content on this article. Thank you for your time and patience.
Msb357d (talk) 21:18, 19 November 2018 (UTC) Msb357d