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Infobox done. --Easter Monkey 04:40, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
"The Chams are considered Malays and the language they speak is understood by the Malays."? No. those are just close languages. forgive my editing inexperience. I wish to add to the discussion, but don't know how. Here is what I would like to add:
My son is studying Cham in Vietnam this month and he states that Cham is closer to Hawaiian and Indian and Oceania. He states that the 2000 year old history dates back from the trade routes of India through the Asian peninsula. UNESCO has designated a site near Ho chi min city to study this dying language as of 2012. The Cham are not Muslim, but worship Buddha. Dave Paulson will get his doctorate degree in anthropology in 2015 for studying dying languages (Anthropology major at Temple Univ. in PA.), and his major is the Cham language. The Cham people were the instrumental helpers for the Americans in the Vietnam war. That is why the Vietnam do not like the Cham ppl. Their 2 languages have nothing in common. That is the contributing factor for why Cham is dying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpau0516 (talk • contribs) 00:13, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
Cham Language
Is there no WP article on the Cham Language? I would like to see one. I'm not familiar enough with the language to write an original article, but if nobody else does it first, I can gleen some info from various sources and at least start a stub.--WilliamThweatt 23:13, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
I created the Cham language article last week. Added language infobox and basic info as a stub. Currently working on brief sections describing history, dialects, phonology and grammar. Maybe somebody else will be able to eloborate once I get the rest of it up.--WilliamThweatt 15:46, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Cham is not closed to Indonesians or Malay
The Cham language have gone through considerable changes, it is now more simmiliar to Khmer and Vietnamese when heard becuase it is more monosyllabic or sesquillabic than a typical Malay language. Most Cham words changed from being polysyllabic to being clustered Monosyllabic. CanCanDuo 02:49, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- when classifying languages a distinction is made between similarities that are a result of actual historical links, and similarities that are a result of unrelated languages influencing each other. In the case of Cham, although its phonology and grammar might not be very similar to Malay now due to the influence of nearby Mon-Khmer languages, historical linguistics has shown that the two languages do share a distant common ancestor. That is what is meant by it being said to be a part of the Malayo-Polynesian language family. --Krsont 23:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Bani Islam
What is Bani Islam? Saimdusan Talk|Contribs 07:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I have learned about history and culture of Vietnam and Bani Islam is syncretist religion of Sunni Islam, Hinduism, Theravada Buddhist, Aminism and Ancestor Worship! I have seen a mosque of Bani islam and it looks like a Therevada Buddhist pagoda but its inside is empty!
Angelo De La Paz (talk) 14:22, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- Do you have a source for "Bani Islam"? Saimdusan Talk|Contribs 05:11, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Angelo.
I've lived In Cho Lon, too, long ago, in the 40s 50s. Now, as an old man ("Lao" or "Ong Gia") I've spent 6 months in a Cham Bani family of Tan Chau, by Chau Doc for a deeper work of anthropologist and political scientist. The result is a paper in French on the controversial Cham Bani Islam. I may send it to you, attached on an email My address is "takima01@sympatico.ca".
The main feature is matrilinearity with transgressions of Islam orthodoxy.
In politology, they are better set in Vietnam than native amerindians in Canada. Until now, there's been no way of forced assimilation and integration to the vast majority of "Kinh" ("Viet" from Cantonese "Yueh").Go to French Wiki: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royaume_du_Champ%C3%A2#Les_colonisations_du_Vi.C3.AAt_Nam_et_le_colonialisme_vietnamien
Takima (talk) 19:36, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
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For more information, go on this site:
http://www.chamstudies.com/members/agnesdefeo(transgressionsdelislam).pdf
Video on Cham Bani in Vietnamese with French translations and comments.
http://bangsacham.com/Videos.html
Takima (talk) 13:23, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Two kinds of Cham- the Hindu Cham Balamon and the heterodox Muslim Cham Bani, with the Bani founded by Po Ro Me, a former Cham King. Hinduism, Animism, and Islam are all incorporated within the heterodox Bani Muslims- they consume alcohol, have a patriarchal society, have Quranic Islamic inspired tales and regard pork as haram. In Malaysia, Cambodia, and the Mekong, Orthodox Islam has gained ground among the Cham Bani. Cham New Year is called "Rija Nukan" but due to the Communist Vietnamese strict controls over minority religious celebrations, the manner in which is celebrated is strict.[1]
Website of Bangsacham https://web.archive.org/web/20080826214730/http://www.bangsacham.com/
Website of Bangsacham https://web.archive.org/web/20120614183633/http://bangsacham.com/
Cham Bani French language documentary, and a Vietnamese langauge play about a Bani girl and Cham boy "Cham Forbidden Love".[2]
The Chams are made out of three groups- Cham Hindus, heterodox Muslim Cham Bani, and orthodox Muslim Cham Islam who adhere to Sunni Islam, orthodox Muslim Chams live in the far southwestern area in the Mekong Delta (Binh Phuoc, Long Khanh, Ho Chi Minh City, An Giang, Chau Doc, and Tay Ninh) while the Hindus and heterodox Cham Bani live in central middle Vietnam in Phan Ri and Phan Rang.[3] [4]
The Buddhist religion was once practiced in Champa alongside the Shiva centrict Brahmanism (Hinduism).[5]
http://www.vidinfo.org/video/75358707/the-level-of-islam-in-cham
Ustaz Yakkob BangsaChamUstaz Yakkob BangsaCham
Ustaz Yakkob BangsaCham's YouTube Chan
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLTkUua2R78vEQEgpibDD_Q
https://youtu. be/WpZxVC3dr_Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpZxVC3dr_Q&feature=youtu.be
the level of islam in Cham - YouTube
Ustaz Yakkob BangsaCham
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpZxVC3dr_Q
www.angelfire.com The Cham Muslims of Indo-China - Angelfire
http://www.angelfire.com/ny/dawahpage/cham.html
http://www.mekong.net/cambodia/chams.htm
Cham Muslim Leaders Meet ECCC Leaders
The 33 Cham Muslims leaders had the opportunity to express ... provincial imams, hakems, and tuans, all leaders of varying levels within Cham Muslim
http://www.d.dccam.org/Projects/Living_Doc/Cham%20Muslim%20Tour%20Report.pdf
www.youtube.com Islam in Cham Bahrulhadi fi Alfatawi Ustaz Yakkob …
This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. Published on Aug 18, 2014. Category . People & Blogs; License . Standard YouTube License
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSW4zOqsHWU
www.omniglot.com Cham Muslims of Phnom Penh - Omniglot
Cham Muslims of Phnom Penh. ... "Later, if we wish to continue our studies, we can leave the village and go to a big school in Phnom Penh or Kampong Cham.
http://www.omniglot.com/language/articles/chammuslims.php
www.talesofasia.com Tales of Asia - Cham Muslims
Cham Muslims: A look at Cambodia's Muslim minority. ... Please take your articles to America and teach people about Islam and about the Cham. ” ...
http://www.talesofasia.com/rs-50-cham.htm
www.answering-islam.org Comparative Index to Islam : CHAM
The Cham Muslims are Sunnis of the Shafii school. The Cham of Cambodia can be divided into a traditionalist branch and an orthodox branch.
http://www.answering-islam.org/Index/C/cham.html
www.talesofasia.com The Diversity of Cham Muslims: Where Indian, Chinese ...
But the Cham Muslims of Indochina are the pinnacle of diversity, ... I believe that on some level there was a certain distrust of Americans.
http://www.talesofasia.com/rs-107-chams.htm
www.scribd.com Livelihood Strategies of Muslim Cham in Chong Khneas, The ...
1. Livelihood Strategies of Muslim Cham after Pol Pot Regime: A Case Study in Chong Kneas, Siem Reap, Cambodia. BY THA LEANG ANG CKS Fellow, Summer Program …
https://www.scribd.com/doc/29077920/Livelihood-Strategies-of-Muslim-Cham-in-Chong-Khneas-The-Latest
www.academia.edu The Cham Muslims of Cambodia: From Forgotten Minority to ...
The Cham Muslims of Cambodia: From Forgotten Minority to Focal Point of Islamic Internationalism. Uploaded by ... For higher-level Islamic education, ...
www.equip123.net Educational Marginalization of Cham Muslim …
Educational Marginalization of Cham Muslim ... The issue of the minority status of Cham Muslims appears to be a ... of language proficiency level among Cham …
http://www.equip123.net/jeid/articles/7/Bredenberg-KAMPUCHEAN.pdf
www.muslimpopulation.com Cham Muslims in Cambodia - Muslim Population in the World
Cham Muslims in Cambodia: Translate In ... Most live in the Kampong Cham Province, a 125km drive ...
http://www.muslimpopulation.com/asia/Cambodia/Cham%20Muslims%20in%20Cambodia.php
Cham - Introduction, Location, Language, Folklore ...
Both Hindu and Muslim Cham observe a number of religious and magic ceremonies. Most ... lot from this about the Cham culture. They're all like human being,
kimedia.blogspot.com Vietnamese conquest of Muslim/Hindu Cham and their current ...
"The fatal blow to Champa was dealt in 1471 when the Vietnamese decided to completely reduce the Kingdom of Champa through extermination. Tens of thousands ...
http://kimedia.blogspot.com/2014/06/vietnamese-conquest-of-muslimhindu-cham.html
www.api-fellowships.org Cham Muslims in Malaysia and Thailand: Then and Now
sense of belonging of Cham Muslims in Malaysia with Cambodia is stronger than that of those in Thailand as a result of different lengths of
http://www.api-fellowships.org/body/international_ws_proceedings/2012-2013/P4-Cham.pdf
personyq.blogspot.com | N | Y | Q |: Islam In Cambodia - blogspot.com
... that are now plaguing many Muslim countries. So, low levels of literacy are at least ... Kampong Cham - President of Cambodian Islamic ...
http://personyq.blogspot.com/2010/04/cambodians-muslim-history.html
http://www.vidinfo.org/video/16212574/muslim-cambodia-cham-muslim-1
https://youtu. be/195o3ihcge4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=195o3ihcge4
http://www.vidinfo.org/video/75358467/al-fatihah-in-cham-phan-rang-ustaz-yakkob
https://youtu. be/9IkmNDJKiNo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IkmNDJKiNo
http://www.cyclopaedia.info/wiki/Cham-bani
http://en.nhandan.org.vn/travel/festival/item/2605702-cham-bani-people-celebrates-ramuwan-festival.html http://en.nhandan.org.vn/travel/festival/item/1847702-cham-bani-people-celebrate-traditional-ramuwan-festival.html http://englishkyoto-seas.org/wp-content/uploads/010306.pdf http://reachingvietnam.com/2012/07/cham-peoples-celebrate-ramadan-and-ramuwan/ http://www.vietnambreakingnews.com/tag/cham-bani/ http://vietnamnews.vn/life-style/227650/cham-bani-people-celebrate-new-year-in-central-province.html http://english.vov.vn/CultureSports/Cham-Bani-people-celebrate-new-year/241957.vov http://chambanicambodia.wordpress.com/2010/08/05/cham-bani-in-cambodia/
http://englishkyoto-seas.org/wp-content/uploads/010306.pdf http://repository.kulib.kyoto-u.ac.jp/dspace/bitstream/2433/167310/1/sas_1_3_487.pdf http://chambanicambodia.wordpress.com/2010/08/05/cham-bani-in-cambodia/ http://www.history.navy.mil/library/online/cham.htm http://www.ari.nus.edu.sg/events_categorydetails.asp?categoryid=35&eventid=1528 http://www.asiapacificedcrossings.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/ChamHandout.pdf http://factsanddetails.com/southeast-asia/Vietnam/sub5_9d/entry-3401.html
Champa and the Archaeology of Mỹ Sơn (Vietnam) Andrew David Hardy, Mauro Cucarzi, Patrizia Zolese, 2009 No religious cooperation ever takes place between the Guru Urang and the priests, either Cham Balamon or Bani. Cham Traditional Religion As will be clear from the above, the terms Ahier and Awar are fluid: they change according to the ... http://books.google.com/books?id=fj8l8v_yP5oC&pg=PA97&dq=Cham+bani&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WS6vU4btBcry7Aaq9oDQBA&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAA
The Serpent The Eagle The Lion & The Disk Brannon Parker Today their descendants, the Cham people continue to exist but in two communities, the Cham Balamon and the Cham bani. The Balamon (Vietnamese word for Brahman) are Vedics to this day and the Bani are Muslim. Muslim or Cham bani ... http://books.google.com/books?id=FFyAAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA184&dq=Cham+bani&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WS6vU4btBcry7Aaq9oDQBA&ved=0CBoQ6AEwAQ
Encyclopedia of the World's Minorities Carl Skutsch, 2013 To a greater or lesser extent the Cham trace descent to the former kingdom of Champa, located in what is now central Vietnam. ... its codes are relatively relaxed. For example, Cham bani avoid eating pork but some do drink alcohol. 276 CHAM. http://books.google.com/books?id=yXYKAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA276&dq=Cham+bani&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WS6vU4btBcry7Aaq9oDQBA&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAg
The Longest Journey: Southeast Asians and the Pilgrimage to ... Eric Tagliacozzo, 2013 Yasuko Yoshimoto, “Is Cham bani Indigenized Islamic Cham? A Study on Islamization and Religious Syncretism," unpublished paper. I am grateful to the anthropologist Edyta Roszko ofthe Max Planck Institute in Germany for supplying me ... http://books.google.com/books?id=-7m8ocZniIgC&pg=PA247&dq=Cham+bani&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WS6vU4btBcry7Aaq9oDQBA&ved=0CCEQ6AEwAw
The Art of Champa Jean-François Hubert, 2012 He was the object at one and the same time of a local cult (Cham jat) and an Islamic cult (Cham bani); once again, our Po Rome ... Cham pantheon – within the theoretical limits in representation of a monotheistic religion – by noting that Allah ... http://books.google.com/books?id=3oMqrqSp1W4C&pg=PA45&d
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/104802/Cham http://www.onislam.net/english/politics/asia/459039-cham-muslims-liberate-not-expatriate.html http://www.nus.edu.sg/sup/9971-69-361-5.html http://www.seacrc.org/media/pdfiles/ChamBook.pdf http://kyotoreview.cseas.kyoto-u.ac.jp/issue/issue4/article_353.html http://www.cpamedia.com/articles/20010703_01/ http://www.talesofasia.com/rs-50-cham.htm http://muslimsonline.com/babri/cham1.htm: http://www.talesofasia.com/rs-107-chams.htm http://www.escapeartist.com/efam/63/Travel_
http://sasnaislam.blogspot.com/p/img.html http://sasnaislam.blogspot.com/p/img.html&b=cham-bani
http://thefisheggtree2.blogspot.com/2012/04/ne http://thefisheggtree2.blogspot.com/2012/04/new-year-of-the-cham-bani.html
References
- ^ https://web.archive.org/web/20120508074930/http://www.lonelyplanet.com/travelblogs/377/151303/New+Year+of+the+Cham+Bani?destId=357846
- ^ https://web.archive.org/web/20080826214807/http://www.bangsacham.com/Videos.html
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- ^ Ba Trung Phu. "The Cham Bani of Vietnam" (PDF). translated by Sean Tu.
- ^ Bá Trung Phụ (2012-06-13 11:38:46). "PHẬT GIÁO CHĂMPA - TS". Bảo Tàng Lịch Sử Việt Nam.
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Hinduism in champa
Hey, is there any more info on the type of hinduism practiced there? thanks, domDomsta333 (talk) 13:12, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Inaccurate information?
The article writes that the Chams are descendants of the Cambodians and are a Mon-Khmer people with non-Mongoloid eyes, tall, fair and so on. Although it is cited, much of what is said contradicts modern data. The Chams are neither descendants of Cambodians or are they Mon-Khmer, it is fairly well agreed upon that they are descendants of Austronesian seafarers. The rest of what is said is also highly questionable, like unproven eugenics. Do anyone favor re-examining the article? Thegreatesttypeofangry (talk) 16:37, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Agreed -- much this article cites pseudoscientific and mythological claims about Kambojas and such. It's ridiculous for the article that states that the Cham are Austronesian people to late describe them as "Scythianized" (i.e. from the shores of the Black Sea).118.71.11.88 (talk) 09:34, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
- I've removed the nonsense. "It is fairly well agreed upon that they are descendants of Austronesian seafarers." Indeed. The Chams probably originated in Borneo. --Folantin (talk) 07:57, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Balamons
The article contradicst itself. It says Balamon are actually Brahmins of the Cham people where as later it says they are kashtriyas. Where is the citation for both ? Taprobanus (talk) 22:05, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Chinese merchants in Champa
http://zh.wikisource.org/zh-hant/島夷誌略#.E5.8D.A0.E5.9F.8E
Wang Yuanmao
http://www.fjsq.gov.cn/ShowText.asp?ToBook=1037&index=24&
References
- ^ Derek Heng (15 November 2009). Sino–Malay Trade and Diplomacy from the Tenth through the Fourteenth Century. Ohio University Press. pp. 133–. ISBN 978-0-89680-475-3.
Cham religions and ethnic groups
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/social-xa-h-i
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/social-xa-h-i/140-champa-ethnic-groups
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/141-the-van-kieu-ethnic-minorities-and-pa-kota
Cham Bani
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/social-xa-h-i/108-the-bani
Sources on history
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/105118/Champa
http://books.google.com/books?id=u4VOYN0dmqMC&pg=PA125#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=ZqOLmYD-0l4C&pg=PA532#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=cx6lttzLAGMC&pg=PA146#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=4Uyypm6T7ZsC&pg=PA353#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://www.vnptninhthuan.com.vn/SacCham/BalaMon.htm
http://en.vietnamplus.vn/Home/Cham-Balamon-dignitary-council-makes-debut/20111/15293.vnplus
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/travelblogs/377/151303/New+Year+of+the+Cham+Bani?destId=357846
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4786832332032393014
http://www.chamstudies.com/members/agnesdefeo(transgressionsdelislam).pdf
http://www.chamstudies.com/articles/agnesdefeo(transgressionsdelislam).pdf
(http://www.chamstudies.com/members/agnesdefeo%28transgressionsdelislam%29.pdf)
Matriarcat Cham (royaume du Champa – Vietnam) : Allah trône aux côtés de la déesse-mère Ponagar
http://matricien.org/geo-hist-matriarcat/asie/chams/
http://www.sabrizain.org/malaya/library/indiancolonization.pdf
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=7451000
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Rajmaan (talk) 16:33, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Cleansed urls
http://books.google.com/books?id=MBGYb84A7SAC&pg=PA228#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=iDyJBFTdiwoC&pg=PA316#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=yaeESYegRXMC&pg=PA75#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=fjsEn3w4TPgC&pg=PT61#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://www.angelfire.com/vt/vietnamesemuslims/hstry.html
http://www.angelfire.com/vt/vietnamesemuslims/compVM.html#cvm
http://kyotoreview.cseas.kyoto-u.ac.jp/issue/issue4/article_353.html
Research on Champa and its Evolution
Pierre Bernard Lafont
http://www.reninc.org/other-publications/handbooks/chambook.pdf
http://www.seacrc.org/media/pdfiles/ChamBook.pdf
How to Deal with Aboriginal Culture Ancient Champa as an Example·
http://nccur.lib.nccu.edu.tw/bitstream/140.119/43770/1/relig4.pdf
Resource-Use Systems of Ancient Champa
The Field of Ancient Cham Art in France: A 20th Century Creation A study of museological and colonial contexts from the late 19th century to the present Julian Richard Brown
http://eprints.soas.ac.uk/16812/1/Brown_3503.pdf
Thurgood, Graham" Crawfurd s 1822 Malay of Champa
http://www.csuchico.edu/~gthurgood/Papers/Crawfurd's%20Champa%20Malay.pdf
Rajmaan (talk) 18:36, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
The relationship between Cham and Aceh?
I still don't understand the relationship between Cham and Aceh. Where did the two groups come from? Borneo? I don't know. But after reading this forum post, I now tend to think a "sea-faring" Malayo-Polynesian dialect became a koine language for many people in Hindu-ized parts of ancient Vietnam and Cambodia. Komitsuki (talk) 16:09, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
Utsul
http://books.google.com/books?id=tzh1fQEEFPAC&pg=PA104#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=w7AqZR1ZUZgC&pg=PA45#v=onepage&q&f=false
The Utsul language is more related to the Chamic Montagnard Jarai and Rhade langauges than it is to mainstream Cham.
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Matrilineal
http://books.google.com/books?id=tClCMl7hswQC&pg=PA82#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=yJPlCpzOY_QC&pg=PA196#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=fj8l8v_yP5oC&pg=PA80#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=jzuKi8RWYy0C&pg=PA75#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=_Rp5cCMHFxQC&pg=PA201#v=onepage&q&f=false
caste
http://books.google.com/books?id=_Rp5cCMHFxQC&pg=PA203#v=onepage&q&f=false
Cham resistance against Vietnam
Historic
History of the Cham–Vietnamese wars
http://books.google.com/books?id=OIzreCGlHxIC&pg=PT592#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=tyhT9SZRLS8C&pg=PA230#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=OIzreCGlHxIC&pg=PT592#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=R5p7cRyK748C&pg=PA109#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=Bc30ytJmwzMC&pg=PA110#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=R5p7cRyK748C&pg=PA111#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=tyhT9SZRLS8C&pg=PA230#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=R5p7cRyK748C&pg=PA109#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=tzh1fQEEFPAC&pg=PA103#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=tzh1fQEEFPAC&pg=PA104#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=w7AqZR1ZUZgC&pg=PA45#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=2E_5nR0SoXoC&pg=PA168#v=onepage&q&f=false
Refugees
http://books.google.com/books?id=tzh1fQEEFPAC&pg=PA104#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=2E_5nR0SoXoC&pg=PA168#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://chamtoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=76:nobel3&catid=37
Katip Suma's Jihad against Emperor Minh Mang's invasion of Champa in 1832-1835
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/83-the-uprising-of-jathak-wa-1834-1835
http://books.google.com/books?id=3oMqrqSp1W4C&pg=PA25#v=onepage&q&f=false
Meanwhile, lack document to record the yourneys of Malay came to Champa by sea. Execpt, the yourney of Tuen Phaow from Kelantan come to Champa by sea to lead a Jihad movement to expel theVietnamese army from the land of Champa
http://voa-islam.com//news/world-world/2009/07/01/96/history-of-islam-in-vietnam/;
http://voa-islam.com/news/world-world/2009/07/01/96/history-of-islam-in-vietnam/;
http://m.voa-islam.com/news/world-world/2009/07/01/96/history-of-islam-in-vietnam/;
http://www.angelfire.com/vt/vietnamesemuslims/hstry.html
http://books.google.com/books?id=Zw0j_5OauH8C&pg=PT180#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://kyotoreview.cseas.kyoto-u.ac.jp/issue/issue4/article_353.html
Rajmaan (talk) 04:35, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Rajmaan (talk) 04:57, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Modern
Les Kosem, United Front for the Liberation of Oppressed Races
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/80-from-the-f-l-m-to-fulro-1955-1975
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/79-post-fulro-events-1975-2004
Fulro trở lại trên bàn cờ Tây Nguyên
http://www.tinparis.net/thoisu12/FulrobancoTaynguyen_Champaka.pdf
http://books.google.com/books?id=60LVMIv3cXsC&pg=PA15#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=2_zKFyHlBk0C&pg=PA262#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=xAKbllE5bioC&pg=PA255#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=CgwOi-5JrBYC&pg=PA12#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=BtmrZYAag58C&pg=PA97#v=onepage&q&f=false
https://kampotmuseum.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/img_0019.jpg https://kampotmuseum.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/chams.jpg https://kampotmuseum.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/12th-century-shiva-high-relief.jpg https://kampotmuseum.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/new-picture-41.jpg https://kampotmuseum.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/ch-034.jpg https://kampotmuseum.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/dscn4134.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=195o3ihcge4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlieRaWDacU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO7GLdMZd1Y https://travelingvn.wordpress.com/2010/07/13/visiting-the-ancient-cham-ruins-in-my-son/ancient-cham-script/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjodHxd9QQ4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6ldxH6NAeA http://cambodianscholars.org/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO0HFUEeurk
Montagnard resistance to Vietnam
http://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/lighting-darkness-fulros-jungle-christians
http://www.degar.org/hlagru-fulro/
http://books.google.com/books?id=Ld9W1NKBjzQC&pg=PA190&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=2_zKFyHlBk0C&pg=PA151#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=xAKbllE5bioC&pg=PA255#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://www.montagnard-foundation.org/comm-070402.html
http://montagnard-foundation.org/wp/2011/07/08/1458
http://www.mhro.org/montangards-history/conclusions
http://www.unpo.org/members/7898 https://web.archive.org/web/20160321174258/http://unpo.org/members/7898
http://chamtoday.com/index.php/ngonngu/77-the-uprising-of-the-central-highlanders-in-february-2001
http://www.degarfoundation.org/
http://www.hrw.org/news/2011/03/30/vietnam-montagnards-harshly-persecuted
http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2001/feb/13/20010213-021113-1435r/
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2001/feb/13/20010213-021113-1435r/
http://www.learnnc.org/lp/editions/nchist-recent/6195
http://www.montagnard-foundation.org/
http://www.degarfoundation.org/?p=873
http://www.degarfoundation.org/?p=1388
http://www.degarfoundation.org/mass-raid-against-degar-christians/HRUE-DƯM...03-10-2012/MRO=1326
http://www.degarfoundation.org/a-mothers-silent-pain/HRUE-DƯM...12-09-2011/MRO=81
http://www.degarfoundation.org/the-persecution-of-the-degar-people/HRUE-DƯM...18-08-2011/MRO=83
http://www.degarfoundation.org/?p=154
http://www.degarfoundation.org/?p=151
http://www.degarfoundation.org/vn-uses-dogs-to-attack-degar-christian/HRUE-DM...24-02-2011/MRO=151
http://www.worthynews.com/1499-persecution-of-degar-montagnards-continues
http://montagnard-foundation.org/wp/2011/07/08/1458
Khmer
http://khmerkromngo.org/map/map.htm
http://www.unpo.org/article/8856
http://khmerkromngo.org/map/map.htm
Hmong
http://www.unpo.org/article/196
post conflict advocacy and persecution
Cham organizations and activists coopeate with Khmer Krom and Montagnard organizations against the Vietnamese government over human rights issues and minority rights. The Cham activists Musa Porome and Qasim Tu are particularly active in advocacy for Cham rights in Vietnam.
Dân tộc bản địa Việt Nam tại diễn đàn LHQ vào tháng 7-2013
Phái đoàn đấu tranh cho các dân tộc bản địa Viêt Nam (CIP-TVN) đi tham dự hội nghị nhân quyền tại thủ đô Washington lần II
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/component/content/?view=featured&start=40
The current Vietnamese government does not recognize the Cham as indigenous, and religious and ethnic persecution of Islam and the Cham people still occurs.
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/news-tin-t-c/100-mission-to-vietnam-advocacy-day
Qasim Tu is a Cham American rights activist
http://www. ipetitions. com/ petition/champanese/
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/news-tin-t-c
Musa Porome and his daughter Khaleelah Porome are also Cham activists living America, pressing America to criticize the Vietnamese government on its policies towards Cham people. They need their own wikipedia articles, Musa is notable enough.
http://youtube.com/channel/UC5WSnmX60nwq3wsRSKSOooQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ddKZPdys9bE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7vaRy31nHko
http://gulpataom.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/champaka-1.pdf
http://gulpataom.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/champaka-4.pdf
http://gulpataom.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/champaka-7.pdf
http://ilimochampa.org/conference.htm
http://www.cip-tvn.org/champa-history-book-debut/
https://www.facebook.com/musa.porome
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/minority/docs/ParticipantsListFMI2010.doc
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/142397140/forum-on-minority-issues---Office-of-the-High-Commissioner-for
Some Chams believe that the current Cambodian government is a puppet regime of the Vietnamese and is oppressing the Cambodian people.
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/91-news-world/139-vietnam-s-hidden-hand-in-cambodia-s-impasse
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/SEA-02-091013.html
Cham genetics
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0036437
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/27/10/2417.full
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/27/10/2417.abstract"
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/27/10/2417.abstract"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20513740
http://www.mitotool.org/lab/pdf/MBE2010%20Peng-Cham%20paper.pdf
http://www.bioon.com/biology/biox/444697.shtml
http://www.ebiotrade.com/newsf/2010-6/201064171613441.htm
http://www.ebiomed.com/viewnews-311.html
http://www.verticalnews.com/premium_newsletters/China-Weekly-News/2010-10-19/9655TI.html
http://www.pubfacts.com/author/Peng+Min-Sheng/Min-Sheng-Peng.html
http://www.biomeddefinition.com/sdx/e10/all/100/affinity+group+continental+population.html
Cham history
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/81-geography-of-historical-champa
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/82-history-of-champa
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/99-historyofchampa
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/128-podharma
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/141-the-van-kieu-ethnic-minorities-and-pa-kota
cham life in vietnam
http://web.archive.org/web/20100913222239/http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/world/35-vietnams-minority-chams-cling-to-muslim-faith-ak-03 http://web.archive.org/web/20100913222255/http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/world/35-vietnams-minority-chams-cling-to-muslim-faith-ak-03?pageDesign=most_read_rc http://archive. is/4OyIb
http://www.muinebeach.net/chamculture.htm
Transgressions de l’islam au Vietnam Agnès De Féo*
http://chamstudies.free.fr/ChamsBani.pdf
http://www.chamstudies.com/articles/agnesdefeo(transgressionsdelislam).pdf
http://agnesreportages.free.fr/textes/ChamsBani.pdf
Vietnam : l’Islam des Chams Bani dimanche 22 avril 2007
http://www.buddhachannel.tv/portail/spip.php?article487
The syncretic world of the ‘pure Cham’ By Agnès De Féo
http://www.chamstudies.com/articles/ppp.pdf
Les musulmans de Châu Ò””c (Vietnam) à l'épreuve du salafisme
by DE Agnès
http://www.chamstudies.com/articles/MoussonsSom.pdf
Les musulmans de Châu Đốc (Vietnam) à l’épreuve du salafisme Châu Đốc Muslims (Vietnam) faced with Salafism Agnès De Féo p. 359-372
http://moussons.revues.org/976
http://www.chamstudies.com/members/philiptaylor.html
Economy in Motion: Cham Muslim Traders in the Mekong Delta Philip Taylor
http://www.chamstudies.com/members/philiptaylor(chammuslimtraders).pdf
Redressing Disadvantage or Re-arranging Inequality? Development Interventions and Local Responses in the Mekong Delta Philip Taylor
http://www.chamstudies.com/members/philiptaylor(redressingdisadvantage).pdf
philip taylor Poor Policies, Wealthy Peasants: Alternative Trajectories of Rural Development in Vietnam
http://www.chamstudies.com/members/philiptaylor(ruraldevelopmentinvn).pdf
http://youtube.com/user/yousoh
Rajmaan (talk) 04:45, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Vietnam's minority Chams cling to Muslim faith". Dawn (newspaper). HO CHI MINH CITY AFP. Tuesday, 07 Sep, 2010.
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Miscellaneous
Map of historical Champa throughout the ages
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7692/chammap2bl1.gif
Map of Asia including Champa from Abbasid point of view.
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/5002/sanf2uv0.gif
Austronesian migration including Cham people in 1500 BC
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5700/malaymigration0wr.jpg
Champa in 1150 AD.
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2857/danmalayu02.jpg
Other
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8231/danmalayu01.jpg
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/dai-viet.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/maps.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/dai-viet-ly.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/images/dai-viet-map-ly.gif
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/dai-viet-tran.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/dai-viet-ho.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/images/indochina-map-1350.gif
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/images/dai-viet-map-tran.gif
http://khmerkromngo.org/gImages/map/KhmerEmpire.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Czampa_Mapa.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/VietnamChampa1.gif/382px-VietnamChampa1.gif
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Nam_Tien.PNG/360px-Nam_Tien.PNG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Nam_tien.jpg
http://www.onislam.net/english/oimedia/onislamen/images/Politics/2012/09/Champa_Kingdom_Map.jpg
http://www.degar.org/hlagru-flc/
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Bandera_Front_Alliberament_Cham.svg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Flag_of_BAJARAKA.svg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Flag_of_KKF.svg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Map-of-southeast-asia_1000_-_1100_CE.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/VietnamTrinhNguyen1.gif
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Map_of_Taungoo_Empire_%281580%29.png
Rajmaan (talk) 03:14, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
http://www.allempires.com/forum/printer_friendly_posts.asp?TID=9462
http://cambodianadesa.sharepoint.com/Pages/CambodiaExternalDependency.aspx
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.467.6881&rep=rep1&type=pdf
http://www.goldkeys.com/Vacation/SouthEastAsia/DecToRememberLog.html
http://eprints.cdlib.org/uc/item/6w87n2m6.pdf
http://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/89821/bria?sequence=1
http://www.mrfa.org/pdf/Grau_Reagan_Thesis.pdf
http:www.tessabunney.co.uk/explorations/the-cham-vietnam/ http://www.tessabunney.co.uk/explorations/the-cham-vietnam/ http://www.tessabunney.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/A0027821cc.jpg http://www.tessabunney.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/A0027791cc.jpg http://www.tessabunney.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/A0027772cc.jpg http://www.tessabunney.co.uk/explorations/the-cham-vietnam/ http://www.tessabunney.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/A0027916ccrt.jpg http://in-pictures.photoshelter.com/image/I0000mj2KhQpZk_w http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get2/I0000mj2KhQpZk_w/fit=1000x750/A0027895cc-1.jpg
http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-vietnam-south-mekong-delta-chau-doc-cham-moslem-village-face-of-happy-3252476.html http://c8.alamy.com/comp/A0DMFD/vietnam-south-mekong-delta-chau-doc-cham-moslem-village-face-of-happy-A0DMFD.jpg http://indiafacts.org/forgotten-hindus-vietnams-champa-kingdom/ http://indiafacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/raise-your-handsjpg1.jpg
http://blogs.oregonstate.edu/bebeaverbold/?cat=211847 http://blogs.oregonstate.edu/bebeaverbold/files/2015/04/Cambodia-16.jpg http://www.tessabunney.co.uk/blog/page/2/ http://www.tessabunney.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/A0027791cc1.jpg http://cloudmind.info/photography-beauty-of-different-cultures-around-the-world/ http://vovworld.vn/Uploaded/honghanh/2013_09_23/ao-dai-cham-baoninhthuan.com.vn.jpg http://getlostincambodia.blogspot.com/2016/03/expand-your-day-in-cambodia-visit-cham.html https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Nyh9VU27cTg/VteUVhxxrBI/AAAAAAAAASo/jkj5R5G_cSE/s1600/Copy%2Bof%2BCambodia--The_Cham_Identities_Page_12.jpg http://www.amitourist.com/Vietnam-tribes/ http://www.amitourist.com/images/vietnam-tribes-Cham-people.jpg https://muhajabat.wordpress.com/2011/07/page/2/ https://muhajabat.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/screenshot-12.png
http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/vietnam-in-photos/68501/the-beauty-of-young-women-of-ethnic-minorities.html http://img.cdn2.vietnamnet.vn/Images/english/2013/03/12/14/20130312143055-11.JPG
http://vietnam-easytravel.com/traditional-wedding-ceremony-cham-people/ http://img.cdn2.vietnamnet.vn/Images/english/2011/10/26/15/20111026152324_1.jpg
http://www.terragalleria.com/vietnam/picture.viet8002.html http://www.terragalleria.com/images/vietnam/viet8002.jpeg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Cham_people
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mckaysavage/3186670551 https://www.flickr.com/photos/keighmey/3175502733/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/aciamax/galleries/72157653364966171/
http://cambodianscholars.org/the-cham-people/ http://www.sdcmekong.org/2014/02/sdc-promotes-peaceful-coexistence-in-cambodia/ http://www.sdcmekong.org/page/13/ http://honors.fiu.edu/studyabroad/vietnam-cambodia/ http://blogs.oregonstate.edu/bebeaverbold/8-things-about-the-cambodian-culture/ http://blogs.oregonstate.edu/bebeaverbold/?tag=cambodia
Vietnamese fears of Cham autonomy over South China sea disputes
Vietnam fears that if the issue of Cham relations to the disputed south China sea islands are brought up, Cham would demand atuonomy from Vietnam since they were violently conquered by the Vietnamese. Vietnam has put more restrictions of Cham culture and customs recently.
Rajmaan (talk) 22:33, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
I have several doubts on the veridicity of this article. First of all, as it is on the page right now, it sounds like the plundering and destroying of Cham temples is going on right now, which is not true. It's also false that most of Cham live in houses of mud. The article quoted makes a wrong connection between the Montagnards' uprisings and the Cham. I think this article should not be quoted like that.Suturn (talk) 07:36, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Cham People in Vietnam Today
I agree with Saturn.
This whole section should be removed. It's not correct. Cham people live in the same kinds of houses as everyone else in Vietnam, not mud houses. The Vietnamese Government is not systematically trying to destroy Cham culture and religion. It's always a worry when the only reference is to a couple of self style 'activists' who don't actually live in the country. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aussiegrey (talk • contribs) 04:01, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
The section also contain inaccuracy, Song Luy is literally "Sông Lũy" in plain Vietnamese for the "Lũy river", its not a capital nor is a city of the Cham. Also there was no invasion in 1832, they were already a proper semi-autonomous province of the Nguyen Dynasty by that time. Quangsp (talk) 14:52, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
Reposting
source. Just reposting. Komitsuki (talk) 13:08, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Kampong Cham
Just a little clarification. Kampong Cham is not derived from "port of the Chams". The original name of the province is Kampong RongChaum which literally translates as "Port of Patient". The name was shortened by the vernacular pronunciation as Kampong "Cham" but it is a mistaken notion that the province was named after Cham refugees from nearby Champa. Kampong Cham contain the Angkorean site of Angkor Bachey as well as Banteay Prey Nokor and many other major pre-angkorean Khmer settlements all predating the Cham movement into the area. The Chams neither founded nor were they the majority of the area so this naming proposal is highly unlikely with many archaeological and historical evidence against it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiname12345 (talk • contribs) 15:26, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
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As you can see in the side bar at the beginning of the article, the total population of Chams today, including those in Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia, Hainan (Utsuls), and the overseas diaspora, numbers just 400,000 - Not even half a million. It's hard to believe that an ethnic group this small once held domain over the majority of modern central and south Vietnam, especially considering that the Kinh (ethnic Vietnamese) today number over 90 million people. So, does that imply that the majority of Cham people were assimilated into the Kinh? The article states that many Cham who resettled in Malaysia were assimilated into the local Malay population, but it's not clear whether or not they are part of the 10,000 Cham that reside in Malaysia listed in the side bar. Many Cham were also killed, but I doubt the massacre was enough to make them such a small minority. --124.119.126.206 (talk) 13:20, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
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