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Add to see also

Rah - a UK upper class male

146.199.57.209 (talk) 12:31, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 09:01, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WP:TERTIARY/WEIGHT issues

The "origins" section reads:

The slang term "Chad" came into use[when?] in Chicago[1] as a derogatory way to describe a young urban American man, typically single and in his twenties or early thirties.[1]

However, this reference (New in Town Chicago, page 16) doesn't say that.

https://books.google.com/books?id=36R4gwCBwh0C&pg=PA16

As you can see, this reference, which is a travel guide, doesn't tell us anything about Chad's origins. Page 16 is a dictionary of local lingo. It merely says Chad - a slang term for an overgrown frat boy type in his twenties or thirties. Most Chads are found in Lincoln Park or Wrigleyville flirting with trixies.

The slang term "Chad" may very well have originated in the suburbs of Chicago. But to make that assertion we need to have a source that explicitly states this. Otherwise, we're doing WP:OR, using a WP:TERTIARY source. I'm unable to find a reliable source that satisfies these policies, which leads me to believe that the Chicago slang just isn't that notable. That means we're giving a lot of undue weight to the obscure, earlier iteration of "Chad" that was largely confined to the Chicago suburbs.

There is also a problem with this paragraph in the same section:

In Chicago, the term was covered by a satirical website dedicated to the Lincoln Park Chad Society, a fictional social club based in Chicago's upscale Lincoln Park neighborhood.[5] A Chad was initially depicted as originating in Chicago's affluent North Shore suburbs (Highland Park, Evanston, Deerfield, Northbrook, Glenview, Glencoe, Winnetka, Wilmette, or Lake Forest), receiving a BMW for his 16th birthday, obtaining a law or business degree from a Big Ten university, belonging to a fraternity, moving to Lincoln Park, marrying a "Trixie", and then moving back to the North Shore suburbs.[6]

The first reference is good, and does mention the existence of a Lincoln Park Chad Society website. However, the second reference actually is that website, meaning it's a WP:SPS, effectively a blog. This is, again, undue weight using a low-tier source.

The big-name academic publishers have already put out lots of social science research on the mainstream, modern "Chad" concept. Weight should be given to that and less to the Chicago slang. Amaebi-uni (talk) 23:08, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]