Talk:Ceramic heater

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This page needs a history section. Hogwaump (talk) 22:51, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It strikes me that this page is poorly written and--at least to a layman--appears contradictory. In the first paragraph a ceramic heater is described as using a ceramic encased wire to heat aluminum baffles which then transfer heat to air. The rest of the article describes IR radiators (note that there is no transition that says that ceramic heaters are IR radiators. Rather the article just stops talking about ceramic heaters and starts talking about IR radiators). At the end, it looks like the missing piece is supplied: Perhaps the ceramic heater we were talking about in the first place is actually a ceramic IR radiator. But on second thought it seems like the article is talking about two different things, because the first (ceramic heater) is clearly using convection to heat (i.e., it conducts heat to an aluminum radiator that heats forced air) while the ceramic IR radiator clearly is using radiance to heat. Forgive me if I am missing something. Wmdiem (talk) 01:23, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This reads like it was written by someone with a very limited understanding of physics - just enough to be dangerous. The actual information content of this could be boiled down to two sentences. I think the author was probably an employee of Elstein-Werk, due to the german style english used and the promotion of the Elstein-Werk company. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.173.216.12 (talk) 05:26, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No kidding...it reads like a patent — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.81.29.3 (talk) 06:57, 16 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete?

I suggest this article be deleted due to extremely poor quality. 24.99.34.20 (talk) 04:00, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merge?

Problem described above was that the article was wrong! Source specifically mentions ceramic as generating heat; see "Thermistor" and "Heating Element". Company mentioned may belong in "Heating Element", but not here as IR heater has nothing to do with "Ceramic space heater" in the present market.

This should be merged with "Space Heater" (also a poor article).209.86.76.253 (talk) 08:42, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No history

This page has no history/inventor, physics, physical properties, operating function, technical details, electrical construction, power rating vs conventional heating methods oil/gas etc, after all these years how can wikipedia still have stupid lacking articles like this?!? thx Mark 2A02:A463:6652:1:2038:8C5F:6083:F0B9 (talk)

Describing the problem is the beginning of a solution not the end. This article used to be awful, from memory. I fixed something, then I guess someone came along and tidied it up. To me it now reads fine, explains what the device is and does clearly, without errors. If you think it needs more, then I assume no one would be unhappy with you adding to it, without errors. Adx (talk) 22:09, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Are all Ceramic heaters PTC?

Presently, throughout the article, it asserts that all ceramic heaters have Positive Temperature Coefficient heating elements. This may be true of consumer space heaters, however in doing a fair amount of research for the PTC heating element article, I was unable to verify it. I did find some sources that come close. For example, Consumer Union's 1989 review didn't use the word PTC, but it did imply all the ceramic heaters it tested that year had PTC-like characteristics: "Ceramic heaters don't need overheat protectors because the ceramic element becomes virtually nonconducting and its temperature level drops off before it can get hot enough to ignite anything."^[1] Certainly it is not true outside the realm of consumer space heaters. For example, an article in Machine Design clearly said some ceramic heaters use nichrome heating elements sheathed in ceramic.^[2] Also, the Heating element article gives some examples of ceramic heating elements with negative temperature coefficients. Condensinguponitself (talk) 16:23, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Electric Heaters: A spot of low-cost warmth". Consumer Reports. 54 (11): 724. November 1989.
^ Brooks, David; Selvy, Andy (September 2013). "Basics of Ceramic Heaters". Machine Design. 85 (11).

[1] "Electric Heaters: A spot of low-cost warmth". Consumer Reports. 54 (11): 724. November 1989.

[2] Brooks, David; Selvy, Andy (September 2013). "Basics of Ceramic Heaters". Machine Design. 85 (11).

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