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A fact from Celtic brooch appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 24 September 2010 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Early Medieval Irish penannular brooches (example pictured) were copied and imitated in the 19th century Celtic Revival?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2010/September.

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Another way to fasten a brooch that has a solid circle

A part of this speculation takes note of the fact that the ungapped circle came LATER than the gapped one. Perhaps cloth for those of status sufficient to possess such brooches became finer, or perhaps people just got tired of having multiple stab-holes in cloth and so created a way to avoid having the pin pierce cloth. But you could swing the pin out so that it is a sun-ray of the circle. Then pull a LOOP of cloth (which could be in layers, or maybe not, if the brooch's function is to bunch up rather than affix) through the ring. The length of cloth loop pulled through the ring must be about twice the length of the pin, so that the height of the loop above the ring (imagining the ring to be parallel to the ground) is about equal to the length of the pin. Then you swivel the pin, its end making an upwards arc, the end travelling through the loop of cloth. From the zenith the pin continues to swing back down, so that from the hinged end along a part of its length it lies along a diameter of the ring. Then you pull the loop out of the ring, until it is snug and tight. It can't come all of the way out of the ring, because it's now in a simple weave, under a semi-circular side of the ring, over the pin, and then back under the other semi-circular side of the ring. A test of this theory would be "On the closed-circle brooches, is the end of the pin sharp or blunt?" If it's blunt, it could confirm that this method was used and that nothing was intended to PIERCE fabric.2604:2000:C682:B600:7DD4:B431:1F69:2D81 (talk) 23:07, 10 September 2016 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson[reply]

The article does say this, not quite in such detail. I suspect a lot of the outer clothing had rather loose weaves by modern standards. The pins are not really sharp by modern standards. Johnbod (talk) 02:30, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Use of terms

Why not reverse the opening sentence into "The penannular brooch, popularly called the Celtic brooch", and the title changed to likewise reflect this? I have some idea what answers I'll get but it is worth asking. Fergananim (talk) 19:05, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You could make the argument that "penannular brooch" should be the title. However, it should go through WP:RM discussion as it's likely to be controversial.--Cúchullain ^t/c 19:18, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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