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Merging

Opposed. Celine's Law are covered by several nonfiction book by Wilson that don't even involve the character. They deserve their own article.--Primalchaos 11:32, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Opposed. What the above guy said. While they were originally mentioned in Illuminatus! -trilogy, they have been used in other places, too. And not only by Wilson. --Smobey 15:06, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Opposed. Ditto, they stand outside their fictional context just like the Three Laws of Robotics (though, obviously, not as widespread outside the originating works). — Ashmodai ^{(talk · contribs)} 05:02, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Opposed. I have even seen them quoated in social science articles

Opposed.--Dr zoidberg590 (talk) 02:02, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Photo of Communists

The inclusion of the photo of Stalin, Lenin, and Kalinin on this page suggests that these people are examples of "honest politicians who believed in a good cause." Did Robert Anton Wilson believe that they were such honest politicians? Otherwise, perhaps the picture represents undue editorializing. David Pierce 06:47, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lenin and the Communist Revolution in Russia are directly cited in Prometheus Rising, as examples of dangerous idealist politicians.--Primal Chaos 12:02, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As I recall from the PoliSci101 course I had a while back, Lenin did actually believe in the ideals of Communism. A lot of what we view as Soviet Russia now was the result of Stalin's manipulating and altering the system for his own benefit after the fact. (If someone has a counter to this, I would like to hear it.) (StarkeRealm (talk) 18:56, 13 March 2008 (UTC))[reply]

No Conspiracy?

The article says regarding communists: "a conspiracy never existed in any form". Really? Is that a statement of fact or an opinion? Isn't Julius Rosenberg's ties to the Soviet Union now established beyond all doubt (to take one example)? Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.86.109.253 (talk) 18:27, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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