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Time, Cover and Release Date

This news is just in:

The Album Version of the track is 3:35
The OFFICIAL cover has been posted on amazon.com
The track will be available to download on August 4, 2009 through Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Celebration/dp/B002JJ724W Josemrdj (talk) 07:22, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

the release date that amazon.com gives is july 13th which is obviously wrong. so i doubt whether that cover is genuine either... Mister sparky (talk) 14:35, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're so ignorant. Amazon said that the ORIGINAL release date was July 13. It will be available on August 4th however. And that cover IS real, it's been confirmed by Madonna.Josemrdj (talk) 00:23, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please maintain civility in talk pages. And since you say that it is confirmed by Madonna, can you provide a source? I guess not, hence it will be removed. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:35, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The song is available on Amazon now. It's been released. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.29.17 (talk) 09:28, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Due to the early leak, the song is now in heavy rotation on radios worldwide, and has been released on Amazon and iTunes. The song has been officially released. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JRoman1976 (talk • contribs) 14:19, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article is fully protected now for the time-being. Untill and unless a consensus is reached regarding the single cover, I'll ask the protecting admin to keep it fully protected. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 10:47, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

the only place i've seen the smoking cover has been on blogs and fansites, nothing official. and amazon always get things wrong. i kept reverting it yesterday because its not been confirmed. we may be proved wrong. but lets just wait and see till its officially confirmed Mister sparky (talk) 14:47, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry, I marked both the files (File:MadonnaCelebrationSingle.jpg and File:CelebrationSingle.jpg)for speedy deletion. PopMusicBuff ^talk 14:59, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Guys, let's get this article back on: http://madonna.com/news/title/celebration-single--download-now This is Madonna's official site announcing the release of the single... and it has the picture beside, which is also the one on Amazon. MusicDiscography (talk) 16:33, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I changed File:MadonnaCelebrationSingle.jpg. I removed the speedy request, and resized it to meet WP:FAIR. I also revised the speedy deletion for File:CelebrationSingle.jpg. PopMusicBuff ^talk 16:51, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reviews

Reviews for the article has arrived. MTV Los Angeles Times The Guardian: Confirmation of Lourdes' appearance in the video --Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:36, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So it's now okay to mention Lourdes' appearance in the video using the reference from the Guardian? PopMusicBuff ^talk 17:23, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Celebration" was on number 1 in Croatia as well. Now she fell down to number 2. Here is the resource.http://otvoreni.hr/default.aspx?ID=43&glasovanje=da Orange means she was number 1 last week and now she fell down to number 2.

Digital download

Can you add in that Madonna.com have released the digital download of the single early (31 July 2009) due to it being leaked on the internet on the 30th. [1] JWAD ^talk 20:53, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think we will be able to include anything regarding the leak however, the release sure can be modified as we are using an official reliable source. I just bought it on iTunes, although for some reason the cover artwork is different from the one pictured on the Madonna website. Strange but anyhow, I will make changes to the release date and format the source. • вяαdcяo chat 22:21, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, according to WP:ALBUM#Leak, the leak can be mentioned, because it resulted in the single being released a few days earlier. PopMusicBuff ^talk 22:32, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm. I'm kinda neutral. Thing is, this is a single, not an album and the leak has to be notable. No where does it state in the source (for the July 31, 2009 release) that the release was brought forward because of a leak. If you can find a reliable source regarding the release being brought forward due to leak, feel free to post it up here. • вяαdcяo chat 22:58, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. I thought that WP:ALBUM was for albums and for singles, but singles have their own set of guidelines at WP:SINGLE, and there isn't anything there about leaks. WP:SINGLE#Leak just redirects to Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs. I'll post back, if I do find a reliable source though. PopMusicBuff ^talk 23:17, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

According to Madonna.com, "Celebration" will be released as a single in Germany on September 11, and not on September 4 as the article says. --130.226.70.114 (talk) 17:44, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Charts

Celebration has debuted on the U. S. Billboard Hot 100 as of today at a position of 71.http://www.billboard.com/#/charts/hot-100?begin=71&order=position —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.163.64.52 (talk) 11:28, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

madonna.com says the song is #1 in Holland... is that a good chart?--12345abcxyz20082009 (talk) 13:15, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Its Netherlands or Dutch Top 40. It is a WP:GOODCHART but this week's is yet to be updated. Madonna.com might have reported a prior announcement which is still to be reflected by teh official website. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 13:23, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can find the official international peaks here for most European countries.—Kww(talk) 13:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes but that site only lists the Single Top 100, which is a component chart of the Dutch Top 40. Frcm1988 (talk) 00:47, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've heard that, and always accepted it because I've been told it so many times, but can you point me at a source that details the relationship between the two charts? My Dutch is pretty good, so a Dutch source is just fine.—Kww(talk) 00:51, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Video

though no official source has confirmed this, but various fan sites like mad-eyes.net report that in a few days a second video will be released which will be set to the album version of the track featuring the fans. is it ok to publish this on the page citing them as a source? please comment. thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monica8500 (talk • contribs) 16:09, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No I'm afraid. Mad-eyes.net is a fansite and hence fails as a reliable source. If it is really coming up then an official source will arrive. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:21, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

i do not intend to offend anyone but is it necessary to give a scene by scene detail of the video? like her gyrating, touching her groin etc.? it just does not seem very classy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monica8500 (talk • contribs) 12:18, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in Celebration (Madonna song)

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Reference named "ultratop":

From Sorry (Madonna song): "Madonna - Sorry - Worldwide chart positions". Ultratop 50. ultratop.be. Retrieved 2009-07-15.
From 4 Minutes (Madonna song): "Madonna - 4 Minutes Ultratop". Ultratop 50. Ultratop.be/nl. Retrieved 2009-05-05.
From Miles Away (Madonna song): "Madonna - Miles Away chart positions". Ultratop 50. Ultratop.be/nl. November 21, 2008. Retrieved 2009-04-23.
From Give It 2 Me: "Madonna - Give It 2 Me around the world". Ultratop 50. Ultratop.be/nl. Retrieved 2009-04-24.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 21:16, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed.—Kww(talk) 21:28, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

#2 on the SNEP French Chart.

Celebration just debuted at #2 in France. I'm too bored to post a link, so check it out @ SNEP!

Orphaned references in Celebration (Madonna song)

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Reference named "billboard":

From Ray of Light: Billboard magazine Madonna — charts and awards. Retrieved on August 3, 2007
From Secret (Madonna song): Allmusic (1994). "Billboard Charts". allmusic.com. Retrieved 2008-07-16. {{cite web}}: |author= has generic name (help)
From Rain (Madonna song): Allmusic (1993). "Billboard Charts". allmusic.com. Retrieved 2008-07-16. {{cite web}}: |author= has generic name (help)
From American Pie: Billboard chart peaks Billboard.com. Retrieved 22 June 2009.
From Take a Bow (Madonna song): Allmusic (1995). "Billboard Charts". allmusic.com. Retrieved 2008-07-16. {{cite web}}: |author= has generic name (help)
From Ray of Light (song): Allmusic (1998). "Billboard Charts". allmusic.com. Retrieved 2008-08-06. {{cite web}}: |author= has generic name (help)
From Nothing Really Matters: Allmusic (1999). "Billboard Charts". allmusic.com. Retrieved 2008-08-06. {{cite web}}: |author= has generic name (help)
From Erotica (album): Billboard magazine (August 16, 2005). "Ask Billboard". billboard.com. Retrieved 2008-07-21.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: year (link)
From Obsessed (song): http://www.billboard.com/charts#/song/mariah-carey/obsessed/14044086
From Deeper and Deeper: Allmusic (1992). "Billboard Charts". allmusic.com. Retrieved 2008-07-16. {{cite web}}: |author= has generic name (help)

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#1's In Other Countries Missing....

Madonna's "Celebration" has also hit #1 in the following Countries

Croatia Georgia Hong Kong Israel Latvia Lebanon Poland Russia Ukraine Uruguay Venezuela

I would add them but considering how many edits get reverted at Wikipedia, I am not going to bother.(MoovieStarz (talk) 02:10, 2 November 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Maximum numbers of charts added are twenty. All of these that you said are extremely minor markets and hence their absence does not exactly create any difference. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:40, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I know we will probably never agree on how these pages should be handled. I think that it is pretty lame that you basically suggest that because they are "minor markets" that they are not important. Some artists build their base in minor countries and move on to bigger things. And yes it does create a difference when the page fails to reflect the fact that the song went to #1 in 14 countries Total. It would be important to show the fact the song went #1 in certain countries rather than peaking at lower places on other charts. I guess we just see things differently as to how the page should be structured. It's like a newspaper article where the reporter has failed to check all his sources. It's lacking information and thus is less accurate as a result (MoovieStarz (talk) 05:50, 17 November 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Provide a reliable chart for these countries first. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:54, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Legolas, there are no Wikipedia guidelines that state the maximum number of charts entered is 20 - it helps no-one to make up rules as you go along. Any charts can be added as long as they are sourced from the official charts for the country as set out at WP:GOODCHARTS Go for it MoovieStarz. Paul75 (talk) 01:57, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As I said, you need to provide reliable sources for it. And GA reviews are important. If the reviewer points that there are too many charts, he's probably right. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:58, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Revolver confirmed as next single

... on her official site http://www.madonna.com/news/title/revolver-domestic-and-european-release-dates

Links changed and new page added

Akon Remix

it's listed on this page, but there are no further details as to why it was done, and its release to mainstream radio for feb 2010.. Impasse 04:05, 2 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Impasse (talk • contribs)

Because it hasnot received any third party notability. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:10, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reference list

I suggest the implementation of {{Reflist|colwidth=45em}} on this article, because of the length of the reference list. Opinions, rejections? —bender235 (talk) 13:59, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, what are the benefits of the addition? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 14:29, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The colwidth paramter splits the reference section in columns, but not a fixed number (of two) like {{Reflist|2}}. Instead, it produces a variable number of columns, each 45em wide, which mean on an average 17 in monitor (1280×1024) you'll see two columns, but only one on a smaller screen (like a netbook), and three or four on screens larger than 22 in (1920×1200 and wider). For more information, please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Usability#Ideal column width for references. —bender235 (talk) 14:44, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thats wonderful! Does it work for Internet explorer 10? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 14:52, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure. Right now, columns only work in Firefox, Safari and Chrome (see Template:Reflist#Browser support for columns). That means both {{Reflist|2}} and {{Reflist|colwidth=45em}}. —bender235 (talk) 15:08, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anyways, go ahead and implement the change please. Would you mind doing it in atleast the GA/FA/FLs of WP:MADONNA? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 15:21, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks. Feel free to implement it where you consider it useful, too. —bender235 (talk) 15:31, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Critical reception

Isn't it worth to add Basshunter opinion about "Celebration"? Eurohunter (talk) 09:22, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]