Talk:Cauldron/Archive 1

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Cauldron

A cauldron is a big pot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.184.14.235 (talk) 19:02, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

What Is A Cauldron?

A caldron is a big pot indians used to cook fish —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.184.14.235 (talk) 19:04, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Wicca? New Age? Traditional Hungarian cauldron?

I don't know what Wicca- or New Age-fan edited this page but I am sure these informations are the less relevant about cauldrons. If we want to know what is the real meaning of a cauldron in mythology, we MUST mention ON FIRST PLACE that cauldrons come from the east (Asia Minor). It is strange that this article starts with the Celts, who might have used it, but it was not one of the object of their cult. It originally come from the Schythians - shame that no word is written about that in the article - and about the original meaning and usage of a cauldron (they cooked the sacrificed horses meat on funerals in it and it became blessed). Not mentioned as well the fact that many excavations with special Hun cauldrons draw a fine map of the spread of the Hun's. I hope one day someone comes and rewrites this article in accordance of the importance of facts about cauldrons, with the real origin and meaning of it on the first place, and the Wicca and New Age things gonna get to their right place under "Other remarks" or "Other interesting facts" - where they belong.

An other strange thing is around the etimology of the word: (quotation from the article): "The word cauldron is first recorded in Middle English as caudroun (13th century). It was borrowed from Old Northern French or Anglo-Norman caudron[1] (Norman-Picard caudron, French chaudron). It represents the phonetical evolution of Vulgar Latin *caldario for Classical Latin caldārium "hot bath", that derives from cal(i)dus "hot". The Norman-French word replaces probably the initial Old English word ċetel (German (Koch)Kessel "cauldron", Dutch (kook)ketel "cauldron"), Middle English chetel. The word kettle comes from the Old Norse variant spelling ketill "cauldron"."

So it says, the word comes from XIV. century Middle English that comes from Old Northern French or Anglo-Norman, that is an evolution of Vulgar Latin "caldario". What?? But after all this, we get more confused: The Norman-French word replaced the original word wich comes from German cetel/kessel or Middle English chetel, and the word kettle comes from the Old Norse ketill. Wow, how much word-magic needed to explain the unexplainable Anglo-Norman origin! "Anything the truth is, we gonna explain it from Anglo-Norman!" - the English linguists might have thought like that, when they invented this strange theory. Because it's not more than a (bad) theory. If this word had an Indo-German origin - through Latin language - it wouldn't be so different in every germanic languages. I hope linguists take an other look and revise their view on that.

About the "traditional Hungarian cauldron" - the traditional cauldron was like this: http://users.atw.hu/nyerscsaba/radpuszt/index.html. Nowadays of course Hungarians use cauldrons made in factories where they don't give shit about appearance and tradition, they make a big pot with handles and that's it - can't see no tradition in it. 81.183.245.214 (talk) 14:58, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Olympic cauldron

Why is an Olympic fire pot called a cauldron? A cauldron is for cooking on fire, not for fire. --Yecril (talk) 16:50, 25 September 2016 (UTC)