Talk:Catholic Tübingen school

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:28, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that Theologische Quartalschrift, a journal first published in 1819 by members of the Catholic Tübingen school, remains in print as the oldest journal of Catholic theology in the world? Source: Kaplan 2006, p. 96
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  • Comment: The source is in the article but I'm not sure if this is the format you would want for the nomination

Created by M.A.Spinn (talk). Self-nominated at 19:37, 19 July 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Catholic Tübingen school; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Interesting article on a long history, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. To answer your question: for me - as reviewer - that's just fine, as I have to look at the sources n the article anyway. What I - as nominator - give is just the url of the primary source within square brackets, believing that more, or long explanations or quotes are clutter. But tastes differ.

In the hook, I suggest to change the wording to mention the bolded article name sooner. Please do that below, prepared by ALT0a:, because Main page readers have a short attention span, and may skip a hook beginning with a long phrase in German. I also wonder about how to make clear that this was always university level, - school in a different sense then an ordinary school? - I understand that you have one DYK credit and are thus free from supplying a qpq review. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:18, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

ALT0a: ...that in 1819, members of the Catholic Tübingen school first published Theologische Quartalschrift, and it remains in print as the oldest journal of Catholic theology in the world?

How about that? Here's an Internet Archive link to the page (you'll have to borrow the book) and the journal itself can be accessed here M.A.Spinn (talk) 13:39, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. I rescued half of your comment from below the line at the bottom ;)

Offline sources accepted AGF. I volunteer to transform the references to sfn if you like. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:25, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. You may go ahead and transform the references. M.A.Spinn (talk) 21:08, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Done. For Lee, I found neither jstor or doi working, but a different service. Please check. For the books, additional information, such as isbn, would be good. If you are curious about the DYK proceeding, keep this nomination watched until it gets closed (also for new questions), and then WP:DYK/Q. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:18, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

@M.A.Spinn and Gerda Arendt:, I think the hook may be misleading as de:Theologische Quartalschrift was started by professors of the Faculty of Roman-Catholic Theology, University of Tübingen rather than members of the Catholic Tübingen school of thought. Do you agree? TSventon (talk) 14:47, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@TSventon: in the immediate historical context that's the same group of people even if by the 20th century the school of thought was adopted outside of the faculty in Tübingen. M.A.Spinn (talk) 14:56, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

No, I think these are the same people. The lowercase school indicates that it isn't an organisation, or a building, but a movement of thinking/theology, comparable to the Bauhaus people or the Düsseldorf school (which probably should also have a lowercase school). My understanding. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:08, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you both, I am reassured that in 1819 the faculty and the school were the same group of people. I have tweaked the wording to mention the faculty more clearly. 07:01, 11 August 2023 (UTC)TSventon (talk)

Tübingen school

@M.A.Spinn and Gerda Arendt:, I half remember the Tübingen school of Ferdinand Christian Baur, which seems to be better known in English. Would a see also make sense?

• Ferdinand Christian Baur, leader of the (Protestant) Tübingen school

TSventon (talk) 22:15, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

To my (limited) knowledge, a See also should only contain links without explanation. I haven't written one yet. If their might be confusion, a hat-note might work. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

I checked MOS:SEEALSO and it says Editors should provide a brief annotation when a link's relevance is not immediately apparent, when the meaning of the term may not be generally known, or when the term is ambiguous. For example:

• Joe Shmoe – made a similar achievement on April 4, 2005
• Ischemia – restriction in blood supply. TSventon (talk) 22:29, 26 August 2023 (UTC)