Talk:Catherine Willows
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[edit]yeaaa caths alright...shes smart, and yeah... comme ci comme ca
"Catherine was born and raised in Sin City" ??? What a lack of writing style! Ha, ha! I think, the character deserves a more polite approach... 81.203.141.80 10:27, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
And regarding the above, look at the quote from the biography of Warrick Brown: "Warrick is the only member of the team born and raised in Las Vegas." Which is it? mal7798
Well, I hope that cleanup helps a little. BryanEkers 06:42, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Sexual Assault
[edit]didn't the 06-07 season open with her being sexually assaulted? she collected her own rape kit and all... shouldn't this be in the character bio? ThuranX 03:02, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Sexual Assult
[edit]We never did find out weather she was assulted. She was most probably just drugged so that the events that follow could take place. But you never no do you, mabye "time will tell". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.189.1.67 (talk) 15:08, 20 February 2007 (UTC).
- What do you mean we don't know whether she was assaulted? The episode ended with her getting drugged and waking up in a motel naked, and getting evidence off of herself. Even if it wasn't a "knife against her throat" kind of assaulting it was still a sexual assault. Also, I agree with ThuranX. This should be in her biography. However, I don't watch CSI regularly, so I don't really know much about it. Crito2161 02:30, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
- while this is an old discussion, i thought i'd weigh in on it. She was stripped naked against her wishes. This alone is a sexual assault, no matter what else did or did not happen. SeanBrockest (talk) 16:26, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
"Catherine" vs "Willows"
[edit]Articles about the male characters of CSI refer to them by their surnames, but why does this article and the one for Sara Sidle refer to them (rather patronizingly) by their first names? I'd like to fix it or, more accurately, restore it to how it was a few months back. BryanEkers 07:39, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
- This is generally how they're referred to on the show as well. Male characters are called by their surnames by the other characters while the female characters are more often called by their first names. --Bookworm857158367 14:11, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
- Not always true. Nick and Warrick are mostly addressed by their first names on the show, as is Greg. The exception (damn him for complicating this debate) is Ecklie, who refers to the team (except Catherine and Gil) by their surnames: "Brown", "Sidle" etc. Editus Reloaded 09:08, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- This is generally how they're referred to on the show as well. Male characters are called by their surnames by the other characters while the female characters are more often called by their first names. --Bookworm857158367 14:11, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Image
[edit]Why was the image in the infobox removed? It was copyrighted but fair use, as it was promotional material, did not impinge on potential profits of the copyright holder, and is used to illustrate the subject of the article.Editus Reloaded 09:11, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Just read the edit summary. REPLACEABLE?!? All images of fictional characters are copyrighted by the owner of the intellectual property; there is no free image of Catherine Willows. Editus Reloaded 09:20, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Family table
[edit]Does this page really require an entire table for her family members, especially since all the important ones are listed in other parts of the article? I'm just concerned with this and the other CSI character articles becoming too much like fansites. Trista (cannot log in at work) 24.176.191.234 (talk) 06:42, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- I have removed the entire table, as it doesn't comply with Wikipedia formats for characters, and also looks like a "trivia" section under Wikipedia rules. I have also requested temp page protection to prevent it from being replaced by the BT IP addresses that also changed Catherine's last name to "Vartann" and has rearranged cast tables in other shows (CSI, Homicide: Life on the Street and others) to reflect their favorite characters. Trista 24.176.191.234 (talk) 07:45, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Table
[edit]I hope you don't mind but I wonder if it is possible to maybe do something about the table at the bottom, in my eyes it's slightly confusing to the reader and maybe a bit unnecessary, but that's just my opinion lol. K ;o) —Preceding undated comment added 23:00, 30 July 2011 (UTC).
Relationships: Warrick and Catherine -- no love for the Yo!Bling?
[edit]I think this article underplays the relationship between Catherine and Warrick, especially the facts that (1) the flirtation renewed after his divorce in Season 8 ("A La Cart"), (2) Catherine really took Warrick's death hard, to the point that she sought counseling (revealed in Season 11), and (3) there's an entire fanfic universe/YouTube homemade mix world out there devoted to Yo!Bling, which is apparently what the dear sweet children are calling the Catherine/Warrick ship.Marguerite de Navarre (talk) 06:23, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
Academic coverage
[edit]The deletion discussion for this article is focusing on the character's notability. I plugged "Catherine Willows" into Google Scholar and got a few results. As with other sources, some of them turn out to be about the show itself and merely mention the character, but a few focus on her or her and a few other characters as characters. Perhaps someone with university access or a JSTOR subscription could evaluate them.
- Death Wore Black Chiffon: Sex and Gender in CSI
- Choice or chance? Gender, victimization, and responsibility in CSI: Crime Scene Investigation Full text online.
- What to Make of Women-Led Crime Dramas?: An Interrogation of the Female Characters in Contemporary Crime Dramas
- Too old? The sexuality of 50-year-old women in TV series of the early twenty-first century
Darkfrog24 (talk) 21:50, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
- Gender Differences in Adolescents’ Wishful Identification With Scientist Characters on Television And another. "Catherine Willows" is in there somewhere but I can't get past the paywall. Darkfrog24 (talk) 15:46, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 I was able to download the PDF. She was just named as one of the many examples of popular characters that appear on television, so I don't think it is usable. Spinixster (chat!) 01:21, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- Oh well. Worth checking, though. Thanks for putting the work in. Darkfrog24 (talk) 03:15, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Darkfrog24 I was able to download the PDF. She was just named as one of the many examples of popular characters that appear on television, so I don't think it is usable. Spinixster (chat!) 01:21, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
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