Talk:Catch Me If You Can (Girls' Generation song)/GA1

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Reviewer: CaliforniaDreamsFan (talk · contribs) 00:59, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I'm User:CaliforniaDreamsFan, and I'll be reviewing this article. I shall have the review up soon!

Review

Infobox

• Add an alt and caption to the top cover image please.
• For the recording section, I see there isn’t anything about it in the main article; if possible, could you add the whereabouts/location the song’s were recorded at. (leave it if there isn’t anything)
• Everything else is good!

•  Done - no information on the whereabouts of the recording.

Lead section

• The placement of your sentences are slightly jumbled; e.g. you briefly state the “simultaneous” release of the music video in the first paragraph, but then you talk about it again (the response of it) in the second paragraph, which is a disconnection between each other. Could you make the lead a bit more coherent, something like this; state the song, who it’s by, release dates, who wrote/produced it, and composition. Second paragraph; critical responses, commercial reception, music video details, promotion, and other additional notes.
• Also, add the part of Jessica Jung’s departure after the release dates.

•  Done Tried to rearrange the paragraphs

Background

• Having a glance at the article at first, you haven’t mentioned who wrote/produced/composed the song as you did through the lead section; please add it here.
• South Korean girl group Girls' Generation had achieved success on the Asian music scene with hit singles such as "Gee" and "I Got a Boy" since their 2007 debut as a nine-piece girl group, consisting of members Taeyeon, Sunny, Tiffany, Hyoyeon, Yuri, Sooyoung, Yoona, Seohyun, and Jessica. ––– Remove this section; it hasn’t got anything to do with the song itself, nor any relationship with it.
• “the group continued as an eight-member group thereafter” ––– “Girls’ Generation continued as an eight-member group, consisting of remaining member’s Taeyeon, Sunny, Tiffany, Hyoyeon, Yuri, Sooyoung, Yoona, and Seohyun.”
• The second paragraph is good, but briefly mention the inclusion of the b-side “Girls” on any of the physical/digital formats you provided. If you can’t find a reliable online source that specifies “Girls”, then use the Music citation template of the formats it is included on.

Comment: Added information on the b-side track and who produced/wrote the song. I think the point of the first paragraph is to give a background on Girls' Generation originally being a nine-member group, but "Catch Me If You Can" marked the group's first single since the departure of Jessica Jung, so I don't think we should take the first couple of sentences out?

That's okay then; looking back at it, its actually makes complete sense.

•  Done

Promotion

• This entire section is based on the two music videos for the Japanese and Korean versions. Was there any live performances, promotions for the single, or appearances on television that discussed the single? If not, please retitled this just as “Music video”.

•  Done - since there was a couple of TV appearances, I titled it "Music videos and promotions"

• Also, I personally suggest you move it underneath the Composition and reception section because it just makes a bit more sense, structure-wise.

•  Done

• “U.S. magazine Billboard described the choreography as "powerful and sexy" and "mind-blowing" and wrote that the video stated the members "can dance their asses off."” ––– “American music magazine Billboard described the choreography as “powerful and sexy” and “mind-blowing”. He furthered commented that the member’s sure “can dance their asses off.”” (add the reference after this)

•  Done

• “He further compared the video to Ciara's 2009 music video for "Work" for the same construction zone background and the white tank top look.” ––– Good writing, but who is “he”? If it’s a contributor to the magazine, then re-write the first review statement to something like; “[Name] from Billboard magazine / [Name], writing for Billboard Magazine / Billboard magazine’s [Name]”

•  Done - reworded

• “Filipino channel Myx praised the visual "where they're seen keeping it hot with their steamy moves and outfits." ––– Doesn’t exactly make sense; I would just change it to “Similarly, Filipino channel Myx praised the music video’s visuals and the member’s choreography.”

•  Done - reworded

Comment: They did not have a lot of promotions for this release, but they did performed the songs on television a couple of times.

If you could find reliable sources (on any online article, or even this link on YouTube [1] because the YouTube channel is verified) about the live performances, then mention them in the article. But I recommend you change some of the points I made above to the article.

•  Done - there was two TV appearances - MBC's Music Core and NTV's Live Monster.

Composition and reception

• Okay, I would suggest you move the first paragraph to the top with the Background section (title it “Background and composition”).

•  Not done - as discussed

• You stated that the song was compared to the work of Zedd and Skrillex here, but you don’t mention it during the lead section? Add something about the comparisons to the lead please.

•  Done

• “Fuse noted it as a departure from the group's signature bubblegum pop styles and named it "high-turbo" EDM.” I’d suggest you add a <ref name=””> tag here for the Fuse comments because it has quotation marks for high-turbo.

•  Done

• Another note, I’ve noticed that you’re don’t mention any contributors/writers that wrote for Fuse or Billboard for example. If the articles do not identify the writers, then that’s fine, but please add the contributors/writers if so, as it keeps the article formal.

•  Done

• “number 2” ––– “number two”
• “number 8” ––– “number eight”
• “number 9” ––– “number nine”

•  Not done

• Everything else through the second paragraph is really good, but just section it off with a sub-heading “chart performance”.

•  Done

• Just curious; the statements you made for the critical responses are good, but they serve more purpose through the composition section than critical analysis as you only mention critiques that aim towards comparisons of this songs composition to other artists; is there any more critiques? End of year lists, awards, nominations, etc.?

•  Not done Since there was not much exposure for the song, it did not have any awards nominations, etc.

Comment:I did made few changes to this section, but I don't find it necessary to move the first paragraph to "Background". Also, regarding the format for numbers, is that a must that we should spell it out in words?

Now that you've added the writers/producers, you don't need to move the first paragraph. Well in a general sense, each number underneath 10 has been formatted in words in many articles. But that's just my prerogative. But I recommend you change some of the points I made above to the article, unless you contact me again about it. ALSO, remove the image of Zedd and Skrillex; I noticed that the article has ALOT of visual/audio files all together, and the article might get pulled up for the amount of files.

•  Done I removed the Zedd/Skrillex images and have made changes to most of the recommendations.

Track listing

• Since there is more than one format and track list, pluralize the section as “track listings and formats”.
• Everything else is really good!

•  Done

Chart performance

• Because I mention during the Composition and reception to retitle the second paragraph as “chart performance”, just retitle this one as “charts”.

•  Done

Release history

• Really good!

References

• Really good!

External links

• Really good!

Any additional notes

• “members” ––– “member’s”
• “groups” ––– “group’s”
• Was there any more people part of this song? Photography, vocalists, producers, arrangers? I would suggest you make a quick “credits and personnel” section to identify who did what, as some parts, such as the lack of a music video director, is absent throughout the article.

•  Not done - unfortunately, there was not much info on "credits and personnel", but I did added the name of the music video director.

Overall

A very nice article, but needs quite a few more touch-ups. I'll put this on hold for 7 days, and allow you to do your business! Good luck CaliforniaDreamsFan (talk · contribs} 02:12, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Please give it a few more days, I will try to work on it over the weekend. Thanks!--TerryAlex (talk) 04:58, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Yup, sweet as, but I'll let you know when the time starts to tick Good luck! CaliforniaDreamsFan (talk · contribs} 23:34, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

I made some changes to the article. Let me know what else needs to be fixed. Thanks for the review! :)--TerryAlex (talk) 06:15, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Made some comments. Contact me if there is a problem; good luck CaliforniaDreamsFan (talk · contribs} 00:03, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

I actually have made a lot of changes to most of your recommendations above, but forgot to indicate the  Done and not  Not done comments. Please let me know if I miss out anything. Thanks so much!--TerryAlex (talk) 04:26, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Everything looks great, I just done some small touch-ups. Passing this article! CaliforniaDreamsFan (talk · contribs} 06:34, 6 June 2016 (UTC)