Talk:Casas Grandes

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Revision needed

The article is annotated as containing text from the 1911 edition of Encyclopaedia Britannica, which is quite out of date. A great many things have changed. I edited the article to correct the spelling of Juárez and to note that the trains no longer run; only after that did I realize the entry was an old encyclopaedia article.

I think the 1911 text ought to be restored to its original condition and retained as a history section of a new Casas Grandes article.

I reside in CG myself but I do not have sufficient knowledge of the place to write a new article.

Jm546 18:00:47, 2005-09-04 (UTC)

I have removed my change about the trains, leaving only the spelling correction on Juárez. This gets us back to the 1911 version, which should be preserved as one section of a new article.

Jm546 18:05:49, 2005-09-07 (UTC)

The localisation of Casas Grandes on the map is wrong. There is an obvious confusion with the Casa Grande of Arizona USA, We are talking in this article of Casas Grandes Chihuahua Mexico... nothing to do between the 2 locations. Therefore Paquime was part of Mogollon state and not Hohokam. Map has to be corrected. and general review of teh article is required. Source can be a simple Atlas or Google Map, whatever !HERVE GALLET (talk) 13:59, 28 January 2023 (UTC) Hervé Gallet[reply]

Removed text

I've removed the following para, concerning some contemporary local artist:

Mexican artist Juan Quezada, a resident of the nearby town of Mata Ortiz, has been credited with the modern revival of Casas Grandes ceramics. Largely self taught, although his mother's relatives were traditional potters, Quezada's work shows continuity from the pre-Columbian art tradition rather than from European techniques. His work incorporates elements from the work of the Raramuri people as well as the peoples of the Casas Grandes Valley.

It doesn't really seem that relevant or significant to an article on this pre-Columbian site.--cjllw ʘ TALK 06:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

perhaps a link to Mata Ortiz wouldn't hurt? WBardwin 06:29, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there WBardwin. Sure, would have no problem with that- though I see there's already a link to Mata Ortiz in the 'See also' section. Perhaps, as long as this modern 'revival' is more than a reproductions industry for the tourist trade (which seems to be the case), the link could be briefly annotated to indicate it contains more info on a modern, though historically-inspired, pottery tradition.

ps. Given that the Mata Ortiz article is not actually about the village, but is only concerned with Sr. Quezada's pottery, I'd say it would be better and more descriptive to rename that article to something like Mata Ortiz pottery, if that's what this modern tradition is collectively known as...?--cjllw ʘ TALK 23:59, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But where is Casas Grandes?

This article has been written as if Casas Grandes were merely an old archaeological site. Even entering "Paquime" will transfer here. There is not a peep about the present town or its history going back to 1661, nor even about the major INAH museum here. There needs to be an article on the Casas Grandes of today, with the pre-Spanish stuff either included or, what I think would be better, in a separate article.

Casas Grandes is the cabecera municipal, or seat of government, of the municipality of Casas Grandes. It is in no way part of the municipality or town of Nuevo Casas Grandes. I made the appropriate change. Jm546 (talk) 02:00, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article was initially written to be about the precolumbian archaeological zone and centre. Agree however that a separate article on the modern-day municipality would be useful, if someone were to be inspired to put one together. That article would be at Casas Grandes, Chihuahua. --cjllw ʘ TALK 09:52, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Aha. The opening sentences of the article have been nicely and gracefully reworked. There are three or four people in the pueblo capable of writing the additional article. I'll see what I can do (it won't be quick). Jm546 (talk) 04:23, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've made a start on the municipio's article, Casas Grandes, Chihuahua based on some INAFED and INEGI data. Will look to do a bit more over the next day or so. Don't suppose you'd have any pics of the (modern) town, that could be uploaded and added in to the article? Saludos, --cjllw ʘ TALK 08:25, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion continued at TALK:Casas Grandes, Chihuahua. Cheers -- Jm546 (talk) 22:19, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Map and text in factual conflict

This article says that Casas Grandes is a location and a zone in Mexico. But the map in the article shows Casas Grandes in the state of Arizona in the USA. It also shows three areas of unclear significance, the majority of which are in the USA; the one particularly around Casas Grandes is entirely in Arizona.Jtcarpet (talk) 22:40, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Casa Grande is in Arizona. Casas Grandes or Paquime is in Mexico. Casa Grande has a wikipedia article. This article concerns Casas Grandes which is in Mexico. Yes, it's confusing....Smallchief (talk 22:38, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]