Talk:Cartagena, Spain

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Cartagena, Spain article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Cities

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Cities, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of cities, towns and various other settlements on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.CitiesWikipedia:WikiProject CitiesTemplate:WikiProject CitiesWikiProject Cities articles

Spain Mid‑importance

	Spain portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Spain, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Spain on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SpainWikipedia:WikiProject SpainTemplate:WikiProject SpainSpain articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Greece: Byzantine Low‑importance

	Greece portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Greece, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Greece on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.GreeceWikipedia:WikiProject GreeceTemplate:WikiProject GreeceGreek articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Byzantine world task force.

Phoenicia: Ancient Carthage Low‑importance

	Phoenicia portal This article is within the scope of the WikiProject Phoenicia, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Phoenicia. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks.PhoeniciaWikipedia:WikiProject PhoeniciaTemplate:WikiProject PhoeniciaPhoenicia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Ancient Carthage task force (assessed as Low-importance).

Errors and omissions

First, Carthago Nova is latin not punic. Second, what is new carthage in punic and does it mean new new city? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.239.230.5 (talk) 23:17, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So nothing happened here between 209 BC and the 19th century? Sounds like an interesting place. I think the first section could be filled out a little better, or otherwise rerganized. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.127.147.7 (talk) 07:04, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I shall try to complete this article in a couple of days. I do not know how to insert the "works in progress" ad.

--Nanosanchez 15:53, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

this page has been vandalized thanks for all you do to make Wikipedia exist —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.152.184.137 (talk) 13:33, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

according to the oxford classical dictionary it was named New Carthage by Hasdrubal, not new city. http://www.oxfordreference.com/views/ENTRY.html?subview=Main&entry=t111.e1396&category= —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.251.141.114 (talk) 08:35, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Map showing Cartagena in Spain

Would be nice to be able to see a map that geographically illustrates where this area is with respect to Spain and the Mediterranean. This was an area of extreme strategic importance during the wars between ancient Rome and Carthage. I was redirected here after following a link to Carthego Nova, as it was named back then when it was seized by Scipio from Hasdrubal, the brother of Hannibal. eYeDEF (talk) 05:45, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Name in Punic

It was supposedly called "New Carthage" or "Carthago Nova" in ancient times, but since Carthage itself means "New City" in Punic what was its actual name in Punic? Some equivalent of "New New City"? PatGallacher (talk) 17:08, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Internet, and even Wikipedia, are ambivalent on questions of the Punic language. Most authoritative sources, including almost all of the ones on-site in Cartagena, give the original Punic name of the city as Qart-hadast, which is then said to mean "New Carthage". The problem is that numerous (amateur) sources give Qart-hadasht as the name of the city of Carthage itself, and claim it means "New City", in reference to Tyre. There is apparently no actual Punic language expert at hand to resolve the dispute, probably because the language has been absolutely dead for over two millennia, and shows no signs of being picked up by anyone ever. --216.145.71.230 (talk) 10:27, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Punic was very similar to Hebrew, so this is not that obscure an issue. PatGallacher (talk) 23:37, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Name

What is the logic when entering Cartagena in the search box you are re-directed to the disambiguation page? Shouldn't entering Cartagena automatically take you to Cartagena, Spain as it is the original city with the name? There should then be a link for the disambiguation page, sort of like other articles of cities. La Fuzion (K lo K) 14:51, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Error in description

In the description of the flora of Cartagena, this sentence seems to be incorrect: "There are both European and African species present, especially the Iberian-African starvation only present in the southern coasts of Spain." Starvation? I am not a botanist, but I believe that the word starvation is the wrong one to use here. JohnSHicks (talk) 01:08, 26 December 2013 (UTC) Yes, there was some poor vocabulary and grammar in that section. I tried to fix it looking at the Spanish version.31.222.106.63 (talk) 11:18, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cruiser vs cruise ship

I just changed 'cruiser' to 'cruise ship' then accidently saved the page before finishing my comments. 'Crucero' translates well enough into 'cruiser' but the term 'cruiser' in English suggests something more sinister, like warships, police cars, people just out 'cruising' in their cars. 'Cruise ship', on the other hand, fits well with the rest of the sentence. Nice article, by the way. Thanks.Amaling (talk) 23:01, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The climate

I can't find any affirmation for the climate charts on the Internet. Your figures seem way too high for that region. Compare Almeria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.157.78.45 (talk) 20:46, 17 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 3 external links on Cartagena, Spain. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 09:06, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

la azohia

the village of la azohia is in cartagena. Seems to be invisible to the bookings webapages and airbnb.. several years ago julia roberts the actress bought a hous there as did leo messi soccer star.. Since then the powers that be have put la azohia into anoff the radar invisible mode just like the city in the movie black panther.dont know why but la azohia in summers is full of famous folks with no i say no paparazzi...hugh jackman javier bardem robin williams used to summer here with his dogs in the water.. anyone know about this — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.139.193.163 (talk) 08:54, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

La azohia

LA azohia is located in the golf mazarron but really part of Cartagena? We spend a summer in LA azohia swimming in the sea with our dog riding horses in the sea and Julia Roberts has her summer house there .free ice cream for kids everyday everywhere .a big gesture to make tourists really happy.LA azohia is the vest summer holiday but where exactly is it ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.139.193.163 (talk) 21:36, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Answering

Yes, it is located in Perín district in Cartagena municipality. https://www.cartagena.es/barrios_diputaciones.asp --Yolanda95 (talk) 09:28, 30 January 2019 (UTC)Yolanda95[reply]

Thinking about deleting district references in "Prehistory" section

I wrote "Prehistory" section in this article some time ago (months). In this section I mentioned the districts of Cartagena where some paleontholocigal sites are locates. Now I am thinking that district references may not be useful or interesting for readers in Wikipedia because they are very specific data of Cartagena. Do you think deleting district mentions is suitable or convenient?

For example:

Currently in the article: There is mention of the presence of individuals belonging to the genus Homo in the cave Cueva Victoria 1,300,000 years ago. This cave is located in the district Rincón de San Ginés

If district mentions are deleted: There is mention of the presence of individuals belonging to the genus Homo in the cave Cueva Victoria 1,300,000 years ago. This cave is located in the south-east of the municipality.

--Yolanda95 (talk) 09:41, 30 January 2019 (UTC)Yolanda95[reply]

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion

The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion:

BanderaCartagena.png

Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 16:22, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Official" name?

Carthago Nova or Nova Cathago?

Why Mid importance

Municipalities, where a similar quantity of people reside and that are not capital of a province, such as Terrassa, Sabadell, Gijón and Móstoles are considered as Mid Importance at least.

--Yolanda95 (talk) 16:48, 13 September 2020 (UTC)Yolanda95[reply]

Error in pushpin map

The pushpin map gives options of viewing the location in Spain or viewing the location in... Spain. If you compare the article for the city of Murcia it shows the location in either Spain or the province of Murcia. Unfortunately I don't know how to fix it as I don't understand how the pushpin map configuration markup works. I hope someone who does will see this and fix it. If not I may try to have a go at it later when I have time to experiment a bit. DavidConrad (talk) 18:44, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

add a translation to the motto

what does “muy noble muy leal y siempre heroico ciudad de cartagena” mean in english? Lunathedog2 (talk) 12:17, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Cartagena(Spain)" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Cartagena(Spain) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 28 § Cartagena(Spain) until a consensus is reached. Steel1943 (talk) 06:14, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]