Talk:Carrying (basketball)

This page was proposed for deletion by Tsujimasen (talk · contribs) on 13 March 2024.

Palming

At least as I've always known it, palming is something different, google search for palming a basketball. This article could use some sourcing to support the claim that palming is a synonym of this.—Godsy^(TALK_CONT) 01:36, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

plane of 180° ?

What does the phrase "the ball’s plane of 180°" mean? Where are these 180 degrees measured?

My guess is that the article refers to the horizontal plane that divides the ball into 2 (equal) halves; if you think of the ball as the Earth, with the North Pole at the top and the South Pole at the bottom, it might be called the equatorial plane.

--Austrian (talk) 20:12, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Petition to remove this article as the violation is not found in any rulebook

Carrying is colloquial but I have not come across a rule book or ruleset that lists carry(ing) as a violation.

From what I've come across, the rulesets define the carry as the hand dropping below the basketball, but it only serves to stop a live dribble. If a player dribbles again after stopping his dribble, whether or not a carry is used to stop the dribble, a double dribble violation is called. If a player lifts his pivot foot after stopping his dribble and places it back down without shooting or passing the ball, whether or not a carry is used to stop the dribble, a traveling violation is called.

Suffice it to say there is no carry violation in the rule book. Tsujimasen (talk) 23:27, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is some real confusion about what constitutes a carrying violation, but I think this article deserves a fuller discussion. I replied to the notice at WT:BBALL. Zagalejo (talk) 23:14, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You've shared to me on WT:HOOPS that "carrying" has a different referee hand signal on the FIBA rulebook. I indeed checked that out and confirmed that there are two illegal dribbling violations: double dribbling and carrying. So that means, yes, there's a carrying violation in FIBA's rulebook.

On the NBA rulebook, it states "A player who is dribbling may not put any part of his hand under the ball and (1) carry it from one point to another or (2) bring it to a pause and then continue to dribble again." This is the carrying violation as described, as is indeed on the rulebook.

I'm to lazy to read through the NCAA rulebook but this violation might be there.

I suppose the question is not is this violation on the rulebook, but is this "activity" notable itself. I'd agree so, based on controversy in the past decade by players like LeBron petitioning to allow things like crab dribbles. Howard the Duck (talk) 17:19, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

One lingering question is where "palming" fits in. This gives the impression that the NBA makes a distinction between carrying and palming. ("All last season, there were only 43 carrying calls made and 67 palming calls, according to ESPN's Kevin Pelton.") However, I don't see anything in the NBA's rules that explains how the NBA defines palming. Zagalejo (talk)