Talk:Carrizo Creek (Mescalero Reservation, New Mexico)

Rivers Low‑importance

	Geography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Rivers, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Rivers on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.RiversWikipedia:WikiProject RiversTemplate:WikiProject RiversRiver articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

United States: New Mexico

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
	New Mexico portal This article is supported by WikiProject New Mexico (assessed as Low-importance).

No need for change.

I disagree 100% with the reviewer’s comment that this page needs to be rewritten or removed entirely, which was apparently based on the idea that the creek is not “notable” enough.

(1) I am not aware of any Wikipedia notability standards FOR CREEKS, just as I am not aware of any notability standards for populated places, or even formerly populated places now abandoned. If a place appears on a map of general applicability, such as Google Maps, then it may justifiably be the basis of a Wikipedia page. This creek appears on GNIS, as well as Google Maps and Natural Atlas. It is a reasonable subject of a page.

(2) If you need notability, look at a map. Mescalero Lake is one of the two most prominent geographic features on the whole Mescalero Reservation (the other being Sierra Blanca Peak), and certainly the most prominent body of water. Carrizo Creek in turn is one of two tributaries of the lake, and the outflow creek for the entire lake. How can anyone say it’s not notable-- unless they are trying to take the position that nothing which happens on the Mescalero Reservation is notable.

(3) The Disambiguation Police (yeah, they seem to exist on Wikipedia) object when you make an entry on a disambiguation page without actually writing a page on the subject. In other words, the Carrizo Creek and Carrizo Wash disambiguation page cannot contain a notation that says the Carrizo Creek that runs through the Mescalero Reservation of New Mexico is not the same as the Carrizo Creek (New Mexico/Texas), despite both being in New Mexico. Someone actually has to write the page on Carrizo Creek (Mescalero Reservation) in order to make that distinction on the disambiguation page. So for disambiguation purposes alone, this page is justified.

And may I humbly suggest that if a person believes a page should be rewritten, that they rewrite it? TulGuy (talk) 18:34, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]