Talk:Carolina Marín

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Review: July 16, 2021. (Reviewed version).

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Top Rankings

What is the point of having "World rankings: Top ten badminton players as of July 28, 2016"-template? Does it get regularly updated (otherwise it seems rather random not to say useless)? For which Badminton players should it be included? Actives ones?--Kmhkmh (talk) 11:53, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Carolina Marín/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Some Dude From North Carolina (talk · contribs) 01:23, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I'm going to be reviewing this article. Expect comments by the end of the week. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 01:23, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Add alt text to every image being used.
Move the "Use dmy dates" template below the hatnote (MOS:ORDER).
Add serial commas after "World Championships", "2015", and "2018" in the lead.
Add a hyphen between "first ever" (all three times).
"for five times" - is "for" necessary?
"at the same year" → "in the same year"
"throughugh" - typo
"making all-Spanish final" - reword
"place late November" → "place in late November"
"three World Championships title" → "three World Championships titles"
"after eight-month" → "after an eight-month"
Remove the comma after "2019 Vietnam Open".
"final of French Open" → "final of the French Open"
"in a positive note" → "on a positive note"
"successive week" - singular or plural?
"defeated by" → "defeated by"
"a close rubber games" - singular or plural?
"eight seed" - reword
Remove the comma after "very first time".
"won first title" - is a "the" missing?
"Marín have" → "Marín has"
"pulled-out from" → "pulled out of"
"Swiss Open" → "the Swiss Open"
#Achievements needs citations for every award.
Same issue for #Performance timeline and #Career overview.
Sources are archived.
Sportskeeda (#24) is considered unreliable.
Avoid having domain name extensions (".com") in website parameters.
Also avoid having WP:ALLCAPS in titles, even if partially.

Done Thanks so much for your work on this. Stvbastian (talk) 03:51, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Progress

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Bold and inaccurate introduction

In the first paragraph of the article, there's a line saying that Marin is widely regarded as one of the greatest female athletes in women's singles badminton and the only source, which is a now removed biographic article on olympicchannel.com, used the words considered one of the greatest badminton players of all time. For what I know, Olympic Channel, from the website to Youtube, always tend to use big words to promote athletes. Yes Marin has won Olympic gold and is the first in women's singles to achieve 3 WCH titles, but her results at other tournaments are not very outstanding. She only got into All-England Final once (which she won) and never won any Year-end final (only one-time finalists). For Super Series or Super 500+ she only won 15 titles, quite moderate if you compare to Lin Dan, Lee Chong Wei, Fu Haifeng, Cai Yun, Setiawan, Zhang Nan, Zhao Yunlei...those who are considered one of the greatest in their fields, and in women's singles there are Susi Susanti, Zhang Ning, Tai Tzu-ying, Ye Zhaoying...who are more decorated than her. So I think describing Marin as "one of the greatest" is quite a bold statement since lots of great players don't have that in their articles and those who have it have far more titles, and her H2H records against other World No.1 players are more negative than positive.

Still in the same line, Marin is written to holds the distinction of having won a medal in almost every BWF tournament. I mean why is this a big thing that someone decided to put it right next to greatest female athletes in WS? In the last 10 years many players also achieved that: Tai Tzu-ying, Yamaguchi, Chen Yufei, Wang Yihan, Okuhara, Li Xuerui... That's not "distiction" at all.

In conclusion, I think that line is an overstatement and also include inaccurate information. Therefore I removed it and am very pleased to have discussion here.

NguyenDuyAnh1995 (talk) 05:05, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA concerns

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria because of the uncited text in the article, particularlity in the 2023 and 2024 sections. Is anyone interested in addressing these concerns, or should this go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 02:50, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ill try to add sources in that section soon. Thanks for the concern Z1720..Stvbastian (talk) 19:28, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Z1720.. Do you know which rule on Wikipedia says that we should not put "professional" just like in the statement Carolina Marin is a Spanish professional badminton player? I hope you can help. thanks Stvbastian (talk) 16:15, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Stvbastian: I'm not sure if there is a specific rule, but I don't think it is necessary. The descriptors in the second sentence outline her accomplishments and bring the assumption that she is professional. Also, MOS:CURRENCY asks editors to avoid statements that could become outdated: the article would need to be changed if she was no longer receiving payment for this role and there's no guarantee that someone would update the article when this happens. Therefore, I think it is best to leave that word out. Z1720 (talk) 14:44, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]