Talk:Carmen Amaya

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About linking to Youtube, WP:EL clearly says "There is no blanket ban on linking to these sites as long as the links abide by these guidelines. See also Wikipedia:Copyrights." (those clips of Amaya are old and there is no copyvio). Having a link to some short videos of her dance improves the quality of that article. Calling that link an "spam" is quite inapropriate. Jahangard 22:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Dubious

Section subject to change, but this is about Carmen's birth year. There's conflicting sources that vary either 1913 or 1918. This article advises of both, with some justification why there is citation to state 1918, but that in itself appears to refer to 2nd hand knowledge. https://alchetron.com/Carmen-Amayalol Tytrox (talk) 13:50, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In Antonio Luis Navarro García: Historia del Baile Flamenco, Vol. II, ISBN 978-84-96210-71-4, 2013 is given as the year of birth. Navarro García's compendium can be considered a reference work for the history of flamenco. Moreover, Navarro García writes on p. 177 that in 1924 she got her first contract at the prestigious Bar del Manquet in Barcelona – quite early for an 11-year-old girl, but for at the age of six, quite impossible. In 1929 she had her performance in Paris in Raquel Meller's show Paris-Madrid – at that time possible for a girl of 16, yet not plausible at the age of 11. --Mussklprozz (talk) 21:38, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On p. 181, Navarro García literally cites Carmen Amaya: “En el pueblo Español, en la Exposición de Barcelona de 1929, yo tenía dieiséis años, teníamos que cantar y bailar para los visitantes que nos lo pedían.” – “In the Spanish village at the 1929 Barcelona Exposition, when i was 16 years old, we had to sing and dance for visitors according to their wishes.” --Mussklprozz (talk) 08:08, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Spanish Wikipedia claims that cita libro|año=2013|editorial=Edicions Bellaterra|autor=Montse Madridejos y David Pérez Merinero|título=Carmen Amaya|isbn=978-84-7290-636-5|páginas=21|ubicación=Barcelona gives 1918 as Amaya's year of birth. I will try to get that book at the Instituto Cervantes in Frankfurt tomorrow. --Mussklprozz (talk) 08:17, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Went to the library of Instituto Cervantes, got the sources, sorted things out and wrote it down in the biography section. Feel free to correct my style if I made any teutonisms. --Mussklprozz (talk) 11:15, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thorough edit necessary

I have tried to improve the language in this entry which was clearly written by a non-native speaker with a poor command of English. But it's still very far from perfect and a review by a native speaker is badly needed. At some places I wasn't sure what the author is trying to say so I left them as they were. Also, the quotation by Vicente Marrero is complete gibberish (a machine translation perhaps?) and if nobody is willing to translate it correctly, it should IMHO be deleted (or changed to original, if this is acceptable). But most of all, it's just a complete mess in terms of structure, especially in the end sections. Here, a thorough re-working would be needed.