Talk:Carlo Levi
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Terminology
[edit]The term is Jewish-Italian. There is a link to Jewish-Italian history at the bottom. The term is similar to African-American, Jewish-American, Swiss-Italian, German-Italian, etc. Levi was a member of a Communist Party, it should be capitalized.69.221.60.181 18:15, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- "Italian-Jewish" is the more common English phrase; it gets twice the Google hits of "Jewish-Italian", much like "German-Jewish" is by far the more common phrase. It's unclear what "African-American", "Swiss-Italian" and "German-Italian" have to do with this. In any event Wikipedia uses common phrases. As for communism, proper English usage says that words are not capitalized except when used as proper nouns. Thus "He was a member of the Communist Party" or "He was a communist". Jayjg (talk) 18:23, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Italian-Jewish definitely seems more common, and I agree with Jayjg that communist should not be capitalized. SlimVirgin (talk) 18:59, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)
- Communist is a proper noun, and it is capitalized as are: American, Democratic, Republican. As to what Jewish-American has to do with it, you can see the order. Jewish first, as in Jewish-American, Afrcan-American, etc. You wouldn't use the term American-African or American-Jewish. The nation is second. Jewish-Italian is indeed a common English phrase, and it really is the more accurate in line with the trend of usage in the USA as described above with the nation second. By the way, what is the Wikipedia policy of using search engine hits to determine things? Is there a rule? The other question might be how do the Italians refer to their Jews? Jewish first or second? Thanks.69.221.60.181 19:09, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Regarding "communist", see the Communism article for proper usage. When discussing an organization, it is a proper noun, and is capitalized; otherwise, it is not capitalized. As for "Jewish-American", that is, in fact, far less common a phrase than "American-Jewish", which gets almost 4 times the Google hits. This follows the typical trend, as with "German-Jewish", "Russian-Jewish", "Canadian-Jewish" etc. In the case of Italian Jews, "Italian-Jewish" is twice a common an English usage as "Jewish-Italian". What Italians do isn't particularly relevant; Wikipedia follows English common usage, it doesn't try to impose "more accurate" usage. Finally, the Google test is often used to decide popular usage, but if you have a better tool please bring it forward. Jayjg (talk) 19:25, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
No, its proper to treat it as you would Democrat or Republican, the political parties.69.221.60.181 20:44, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Communism is not a political party, it's a philosophy. Again, please note the examples given, and also please note you have violated the 3RR; continued violations will get this IP banned as well. Jayjg (talk) 21:19, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Italy has a Communist Party, and has for years. Jayjg, please do not threaten to abuse and censor others.69.222.254.7 03:25, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
Carlo Levi was not at all a communist. He came from a socialist tradition, which in Italy is not the same as communism -- his uncle was a well-known member of the established socialist party. In "Cristo si e' fermato ad Eboli" he is in fact critical of the communist perspective on the question of the South. Incidentally, the article is riddled with errors.
Are you a Jayjg sockpuppet?69.222.254.7 03:23, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
- I've reverted your edits, as you've been inserting odd material for some time, here and elsewhere, and insulting editors who disagree with you, so it's hard to trust what you write. Also, the sentence: "In 1963, he was elected to the Senate (1963-1968) as an independent on the party list of the Italian Communist Party and served there until Spring 1972" seems to suggest he served until 1968 and until 1972, unless you mean he served in the administration of 1963-68, which would have to be made clear. SlimVirgin (talk) 03:47, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
- Actually, that doesn't make sense either. Perhaps you mean he was elected in 1963 and again in 1968? SlimVirgin (talk) 03:58, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
SlimVirgin, you are a very controversial editor. Please make edits based on information, not based on peronsal attacks. Wikipedia has a policy of no personal attacks.69.209.210.145 20:03, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
List of works
[edit]I added a list of works. I'll add a list of other posthumous works once I've had a chance to read and evaluate them. --KeithatET (talk) 17:48, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- The list here is only in Italian. It would be highly relevant in this WP to list CL's published works in English translation with dates of publication. I suggest Level 3 headings under Works for the Italian and English bibliographies -- Deborahjay (talk) 12:07, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Further work on the page
[edit]I don't like the reference to Basilicata as being "backward" since I think that is more subjective than scientific. I'm going to rework the article soon, cleaning up the chronology and also adding a section on Levi's career as a painter and artist - which he was throughout his entire life (while only a writer in the second half of his life) --KeithatET (talk) 13:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)