Talk:Carl Gershman

This article is written in American English, which has its own spelling conventions (color, defense, traveled) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

A fact from Carl Gershman appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 25 August 2011 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that National Endowment for Democracy President Carl Gershman worked during 1965–1967 for Volunteers in Service to America (VISTA)?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2011/August. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Carl Gershman.

Wikipedia

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Politics and Government

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the politics and government work group (assessed as Mid-importance).

United States Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

International relations: United Nations Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject International relations, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of International relations on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.International relationsWikipedia:WikiProject International relationsTemplate:WikiProject International relationsInternational relations articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject United Nations.

Cold War Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Cold War, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the Cold War on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Cold WarWikipedia:WikiProject Cold WarTemplate:WikiProject Cold WarCold War articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

International development Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject International development, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of international development, including such areas as appropriate technology, microfinance and social issues, on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.International developmentWikipedia:WikiProject International developmentTemplate:WikiProject International developmentInternational development articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the importance scale.

Politics Low‑importance

	Politics portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of politics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PoliticsWikipedia:WikiProject PoliticsTemplate:WikiProject Politicspolitics articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Socialism Low‑importance

	Socialism portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Socialism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of socialism on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SocialismWikipedia:WikiProject SocialismTemplate:WikiProject Socialismsocialism articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Organized Labour Low‑importance

	Organized Labour portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Organized Labour, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles related to Organized Labour on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Organized LabourWikipedia:WikiProject Organized LabourTemplate:WikiProject Organized Labourorganized labour articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Elections and Referendums

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Elections and Referendums, an ongoing effort to improve the quality of, expand upon and create new articles relating to elections, electoral reform and other aspects of democratic decision-making. For more information, visit our project page.Elections and ReferendumsWikipedia:WikiProject Elections and ReferendumsTemplate:WikiProject Elections and ReferendumsElections and Referendums articles

It is requested that an image or photograph of Carl Gershman be included in this article to improve its quality. Please replace this template with a more specific media request template where possible.
The Free Image Search Tool or Openverse Creative Commons Search may be able to locate suitable images on Flickr and other web sites.

Upload

DYK Suggestions?

Kiefer.Wolfowitz 16:55, 13 August 2011 (UTC): Maybe[reply]

~~... that Carl Gershman, who has been President of the National Endowment for Democracy since 1984, was the Vice-Chair of the Young People's Socialist League in 1972?~~

* ... that Carl Gershman, who has been President of the National Endowment for Democracy since 1984, served with the "domestic Peace Corps"—Volunteers in Service to America (VISTA)—in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania during 1965–1967? Kiefer.Wolfowitz 13:10, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK review needed

Please check/verify the DYK nomination for Carl Gershman:

... that the President of the National Endowment for Democracy, Carl Gershman, served with the "domestic Peace Corps"—Volunteers in Service to America (VISTA)—in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania during 1965–1967?

Thanks! Kiefer.Wolfowitz 11:35, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

253 views

When this article's DYK hook appeared on the main page, 253 persons viewed it. Kiefer.Wolfowitz 22:45, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Biography of Living Persons: Wikipedia's core policy

Wikipedia's policy on biographies of living persons (WP:BLP) puts severe restrictions on statements about living persons.

To comply with this, I have prefaced every discussion of Gershman's social-democratic youthful politics with his 2006 statement "confessing" that he was a "social democrat of sorts".

I note that a 1993 discussion "Does the U.S. need a social democratic movement?", sponsored by Social Democrats, USA, had Gershman stating his preference for Jefferson, Madison, and Wilson over Karl Marx and company.

Gershman, Carl (1993), "The polity: Commentary", in Freedman, Rita (ed.), Does America need a social democratic movement?, Following commentary by Jim Chapin (pp. 86–89) on panel presentations by Seymour Martin Lipset (pp. 71–75), Will Marshall (pp. 76–81), and Fred Siegel ((pp. 81–86), chaired by Ronald Radosh (p. 85), Washington, DC: Social Democrats, USA, pp. 89–93, Gershman discusses American social democracy as a form of radical-democratic Americanism, which has been properly inspired more by Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and Woodrow Wilson than by Karl Marx and Eduard Bernstein. {{citation}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

He also seems not to have signed the related SDUSA statement "America needs a social-democratic movement". Given his statements since 1993, I think it obligatory not to state that he is currently a social democrat (or that he has been in the last 20 years) and to state some kind of disclaimer before discussing his politics through 1980.

Sincerely, Kiefer.Wolfowitz 21:13, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nitpicking the article

Starting a compilation of several nitpicks/concerns (please feel free to reply before I get finished):

The article states "In 1975 Gershman published a monograph on the foreign policy of the AFL–CIO." The cited source names a monograph entitled "The Foreign Policy of American Labor" (in the source it is mistitled "The Foreign Policy of the American Labor") published in 1975. In online searches, I've found that it was published by SAGE Publications (or possibly by Rowman & Littlefield) for the Center for Strategic and International Studies, Georgetown University, as Washington Papers, Vol III, No 29, ISBN 0803905726. I can't find any sourced indication that it was about the AFL-CIO, specifically, as distinct from the broader title "American Labor." Unless there's a source describing/characterizing the book's contents, or unless the book itself can be cited as a source by someone who has read it, the article probably can't do anything more than list its title and publication details. --Orlady (talk) 14:47, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll check this. (I don't have JSTOR this week.) Kiefer.Wolfowitz 15:10, 23 August 2011 (UTC) Here's a Wikified citation[reply]

Gershman, Carl (1975), The foreign policy of American labor, SAGE policy papers, vol. 3, Center for Strategic and International Studies, Georgetown University, Washington D.C. (Washington Papers 29), SAGE Publications, pp. 1–82, ISBN [[Special:BookSources/0803905726, ISBN 9780803905726|0803905726, '"`UNIQ--templatestyles-00000026-QINU`"'[[ISBN (identifier)|ISBN]] [[Special:BookSources/9780803905726 |9780803905726]]]] {{citation}}: Check |isbn= value: invalid character (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help); Invalid |ref=harv (help); Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help); templatestyles stripmarker in |isbn= at position 13 (help)

Google Books lists AFL-CIO as a keyword for it. Kiefer.Wolfowitz 15:19, 23 August 2011 (UTC) Google Scholar lists 8 citations of it, none of which are accessible to me.[reply]

I changed "AFL–CIO" to "American Labor", per WP:Verifiability. Thanks for your great edits! :) Kiefer.Wolfowitz 11:05, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 4 external links on Carl Gershman. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 23:51, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]