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Carl Breer was one of the Engineering and technology good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
May 19, 2021	Good article nominee	Listed
February 25, 2023	Good article reassessment	Delisted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on December 13, 2012.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Carl Breer was one of the core engineering people who formed the present day Chrysler Corporation?

Current status: Delisted good article

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Carl Breer/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Whiteguru (talk · contribs) 12:22, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Starts GA Review Page. Hopefully we will start the review shortly. Thank you --Whiteguru (talk) 12:22, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Observations

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

In the Lede we read, He was the moving engineer behind the Chrysler Airflow automobile. When you use the term moving do you mean he was the inspiration, the motivator or the designer? Moving is a bit vague.
Done

Chrysler asked the Breer, Zeder and Skelton → Chrysler asked Breer, Zeder and Skelton
Done

and 28 other engineers from Studebaker (creme-de-la-creme). ← I am unsure of the purpose of creme-de-la-creme ?
Done

Even though Chrysler help them gert started → get started
Done

In 1923 when Breer was on vacation with the family (whose family?) → change to his family.
Done

The 'Three Musketeers' (Zeder, Skelton, and Breer) → linking to the WP page for three musketeers is a bit pointless here. We read of automotive engineers...
Done

Carl and Barbara have → had
Done

Carl and Barbara have 4 children by 1940, → had
Done

It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

Reference 25 is a dead link.

Done

Reference 41 is a dead link.

Done

It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):

Sufficiently broad considering that Breer was right in the middle of the unfolding automobile industry.
Handing the different employers (Studebaker, Chrysler, etc.,) is well done considering the constantly changing and expanding automotive environment.

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:

NPOV is preserved in this article.

It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:

Page created 8 December 2012
Page has 278 edits by 47 editors
90 day page-views = 547 with an average of 6 views per day
no edit warring is observed in page history.
Page has been steadily improved.

It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

Carl Breer 1900.jpg = copyright has expired, its first publication occurred prior to January 1, 1926
Carl Breer 1911.jpg = public domain in the United States because it was published before January 1, 1926.
1901 Breer steam car.jpg = Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 Generic license.
Tourist automobile 1910.jpg = published before January 1, 1926.
Duro car 1907.jpg = published before January 1, 1926.
1918 Studebaker Special Six.jpg = Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 Generic license.
Locomobile.jpg = Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 Generic license.
1924 Chrysler B-70 touring cars.jpg = Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license.
1934 Chrysler Airflow sdn - blue - fvl.jpg = Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 Generic license.

Overall:

May we attend to the prose matters above? Thank you. --Whiteguru (talk) 10:35, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Whiteguru: All issues have been addressed. Can you take another look. Thanks. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:16, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug Coldwell: Thank you

Passed

Copyright contributor investigation and Good article reassessment

This article is part of Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/20210315 and the Good article (GA) drive to reassess and potentially delist over 200 GAs that might contain copyright and other problems. An AN discussion closed with consensus to delist this group of articles en masse, unless a reviewer opens an independent review and can vouch for/verify content of all sources. Please review Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/February 2023 for further information about the GA status of this article, the timeline and process for delisting, and suggestions for improvements. Questions or comments can be made at the project talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:36, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]