Talk:Cardinal-nephew

Factuality

This article mentions two people as the last Cardinal-Nephew, Giuseppe Pecci and Pietro Ottoboni. Surely, they can't both be last! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.5.101.121 (talk) 00:20, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Pecci was the last cardinal-nephew; Ottoboni the last Cardinal Nephew. Different things. Distinction is explained in the intro. Savidan 03:57, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Bob III

The article mentions "Pope Bob III." I've never heard of this pope, and it might well be an error. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.187.116.84 (talk) 19:40, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Of course it is! We call those kinds of edits "vandalism" since they're usually posted as jokes or pranks. Brutannica 04:39, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Successful good article nomination

I am glad to say that this article which was nominated for good article status has succeeded. This is how the article, as of June 29, 2007, compares against the six good article criteria:

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3. Broad in coverage?: Pass – extremely thorough.

4. Neutral point of view?: Pass – prose is objective.

5. Article stability? Neutral – There has been a flurry of edits of late, all by the nominator. While feeling it significant and would like to see further time pass to permit other knowledgable editors opportunity to review, I don’t feel it sufficient to impel an otherwise passable article.

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Yay!

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This is the 1500th FA

More of a 9-way tie actually. [1] Savidan 14:43, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

test 66.208.12.125 10:35, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

"Prince de la fortune"

I would like to say that in five years spent in studying history at home in France, I have never heard the phrase "prince de la fortune" applied to a cardinal-nephew. It is called a cardinal-neveu as in this example of an abstract in a scientific journal. Otherwise I really like this article, it's very good and informative. Go on this way ! Have a nice day. Rosenknospe 11:26, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Eyes

What's with the "eyes of jimbo" thing at the top of the page. It's also here. ++Arx Fortis 14:43, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmm...it's gone now. Looked like vandalism, but apparently it's from the fund-raising effort. Rather odd. ++Arx Fortis 15:26, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Pius VI - "Cesana" family???

What's that Cesana family? maybe who wrote meant that he came from the town of Cesena instead? His surname was Braschi. --Basil II 22:41, 24 October 2007 (CEST)

Sorry, should have been an indefinite article. Thanks for catching that. Savidan 08:10, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Praise

I love this article. Why? Because I learned something. I had no idea who or what cardinal-nephews were. And I think that's the highest compliment an article can get. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 23:41, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Relationships

Can approprate links be made to Links between popes: or some form of "merge and develop". Jackiespeel 19:10, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Illigimate children

I have three different books that refer to a number of "cardinal-nephews" as the likely, and in a few cases almost certainly, the illigitimate son of the pope. Will Durant has also wrote about this, as well as a number of other well respected historians. However, there is nowhere mentioned in the article. A well referenced line or two about at least the possibility that some where papal children is at least worth mentioning in the article. If nothing else, I would think that its inclusion in reliable sources should at least merrit its mention in some respect. —Charles Edward ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 18:26, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

See List of cardinal-nephews. You'll find illegitimate children of the popes there CarlosPn (talk) 18:51, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Charles, you are correct that this article is not an exhaustive list, which is why we have the separate list. Savidan 20:40, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Can they marry?

Are cardinal-nephews allowed to marry (and have children)? BleedingEffect (talk) 19:10, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

(Added a sub-heading for you) CarlosPn might have a better understanding of the technicalities involved but my understanding was the they were ordinary cardinals in every way except that they were not subject the same qualification requirements (though records suggest these requirement were dealt with fairly casually anyway, even in relation to other elevations). I'm not sure of any cases where a C-N was given permission to marry while holding the title but there are some who left the position to marry and others who had lovers. Stalwart111 (talk) 03:35, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Last one

In article there are statement that two cardinals was last Cardinal-nephew: in introduction picture caption Pietro Ottoboni, the last Cardinal Nephew, painted by Francesco Trevisani and caption for Pecci caption Giuseppe Pecci, the last cardinal-nephew. I believe that this should be fixed.--Vojvodae please be free to write :) 07:55, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Note the differences in capitalization and hyphenation. As the article and intro explains, these are different things. Savidan 16:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

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