Talk:Carbide, Wetzel County, West Virginia
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[edit]Why is the county name included in the name of this article? Are we trying to distinguish this Carbide from some other Carbide in West Virginia? Is the place commonly known as "Carbide, Wetzel County" in speech? It seems to me like this article should be moved to "Carbide, West Virginia" unless we have some policy that favors using county names in article titles that I don't know about. LacrimosaDiesIlla (talk) 23:07, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
- There is a historical place named Carbide, not in Wetzel County, and not listed in GNIS. I have yet to contact GNIS and have them add it. Its not a custom, its just that I actually thought ahead. As to speech, thats a tad snarky, isnt it? I say Carbide and I grew up there, but to be clear, if there is a common town name YES, folks do actually distinguish...In speech no less...As to this being a custom, I dont knowCoal town guy (talk) 01:52, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
- Not intended to be snarky at all. It was a serious question because in my mind there was a real possibility that locally the place is called "Carbide, Wetzel County". I know of several places in neighboring states where counties figure large in the local mental geography and in speech, but I know nothing about this part of West Virginia. Carbide is obviously not a common town name. But if there is another place in West Virginia known as Carbide then it seems that this article should at least offer a disambiguation statement to that effect and an article for the other place should perhaps be created forthwith. Otherwise, I maintain that the name of this article should be changed to the more standard (and expected) "Carbide, West Virginia". If we end up in the future with an article about some other "Carbide, West Virginia" there are other ways to distinguish them, as with parentheticals which could include the counties they're located in (Wetzel vs. ?), or their status (historical vs. current), or their type (unincorporated community vs. ?). I just don't think the usage here fits with WP's article naming conventions. LacrimosaDiesIlla (talk) 17:23, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
- Understood, you have an excellent point. The issue is by the time a person can get GNIS to say, yes thats a place, your assertion plays a big role. I am not 100% certain, nut there have been some discuissions on formerly incorporated vs former place. Ghost towns is one possibility, BUT a ghost town can by definition be populated. Just foos for thought.Coal town guy (talk) 20:03, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
- Not intended to be snarky at all. It was a serious question because in my mind there was a real possibility that locally the place is called "Carbide, Wetzel County". I know of several places in neighboring states where counties figure large in the local mental geography and in speech, but I know nothing about this part of West Virginia. Carbide is obviously not a common town name. But if there is another place in West Virginia known as Carbide then it seems that this article should at least offer a disambiguation statement to that effect and an article for the other place should perhaps be created forthwith. Otherwise, I maintain that the name of this article should be changed to the more standard (and expected) "Carbide, West Virginia". If we end up in the future with an article about some other "Carbide, West Virginia" there are other ways to distinguish them, as with parentheticals which could include the counties they're located in (Wetzel vs. ?), or their status (historical vs. current), or their type (unincorporated community vs. ?). I just don't think the usage here fits with WP's article naming conventions. LacrimosaDiesIlla (talk) 17:23, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
- There is a historical place named Carbide, not in Wetzel County, and not listed in GNIS. I have yet to contact GNIS and have them add it. Its not a custom, its just that I actually thought ahead. As to speech, thats a tad snarky, isnt it? I say Carbide and I grew up there, but to be clear, if there is a common town name YES, folks do actually distinguish...In speech no less...As to this being a custom, I dont knowCoal town guy (talk) 01:52, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
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