Talk:Captain Nazi
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If he's invulnerable how can he die?
[edit]Well it possible that Nazi is dead. Cause the goggles that he wore would have to be connected to his brain and that electrical shock would send his brain hey wire at least if not dead. 24.70.95.203 07:00, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Well they weren't simply goggles, they were electronic eyes hooked up to his optical nerves. So I would imagine 3 amps into them would finish him off. Don't ever recall reading his brain was invulnerable.
The main thing is that what decides if a character lives or dies is not the relative vulnerability of the character, its whether or not the character has any appeal to a modern audience and whether or not the writers think the character sucks. Do you remember the Beyonder? He was a hell of a lot more powerful than Captain Nazi and he's dead (or inert or whatever you can call it). We aren't talking about the Joker or Doctor Doom here. ScifiterX 10:19, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Revert battles over death
[edit]This page has been edited back and forth regarding Captain Nazi's death. For awhile the article even stated that he was "seemingly" killed in the "apparent" event of his death. Let's face it; Captain Nazi is a third-string villain in the DC Universe, and such characters (not to mention more important ones) have been dropping like flies lately, especially in the events surrounding Infinite Crisis. Almost every superhero comic character's death is tentative at best, but until we see some harder evidence than "But he's too tough for that," we should assume he's dead and not add all of these "...but he might not really be dead" clauses to the article. --Halloween jack 20:48, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
- 1) Jason Todd did not cut Cap Nazi's head off, eat his brain, burn his corpse and mix it with dog food and feed it to pit-bulls. Therefor, logically, we must conclude that the writers intend for him to still be alive.
- 2) He may actually have been faking his death by using a new power never before described, the ability to grow a new head.
- 3) He could be restored to life by magic.
- 4) Alexander Luthor may have anticipated his demise and removed CN's real head and placed it in cryogenic freaze. Then had drunken fraternity kid's controlling the body of CN throughout the fight by remote control. This would explain his poor fighting skills.
- 5) Provided that his body still exists, the genetic material could be used to clone him and his memories may have been backed up in the Society's computer.
- 6) Captain Nazi may be too lame to get into hell.
Lame, politically incorrect characters tend to stay dead.
[edit]First of all, the motherfu**er is a Nazi. Germans really have gotten tired of these idiots being depicted in modern fiction, because frankly almost all of those people died of old age and modern Germany doesn't want to be associated with a past that most of its population never experienced or played a part in. DC really doesn't want to have Nazi characters running around (what with the millions of people killed and all).
Second, he is a lame character (essentially a knock off of superman, but as a nazi). If you look at what was happening to him, not only did the writers want to knock him off but they wanted to humiliate him first. He was beaten up by CATMAN! That's pretty sad.
What brings characters back from the dead is not their invulnerability, its their appeal. Jason Todd is just a normal human and he came back from the dead because the writers thought it would be cool and sell books. Well, Capt Nazi is a metahuman and although he should probably be harder to kill than that, he is politically very incorrect, not a very good character to begin with, and doesn't sell comic books. I can't see any reason any writers would want him back and I don't see readers being so upset about it that they get together a petition. He's dead. I guess they need to have Todd steal his body and have it processed into cold cuts so he can eat it or something. Some people would probably still argue that he would survive being digested. ScifiterX 09:29, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, but he came back. :) Thanos6 17:44, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
- While I agree that he's probably a poor character (I hate to say it but I always found Superman & the Incredible Hulk too be TOO overpowered of characters and not particularly fun to follow - although I do greatly respect both. That being said, I think it's folly to just sweep the events under the rug, and that Deutchland (I always found it awkward that other countries sometimes seem to "rename" countries...same goes for Nippon/Japan...hm..maybe there's something I don't know yet) just wants to rid themselves of the embarrassment of the whole matter (not that I blame them). With that being said, there is that quote about repeating history should you forget it. I think that Captain Nazi could be used FAR better than he has been, to bring about real-life issues to hit home for folks (neo-nazism works although the whole "humiliating him" in some Comics Code manner is, in my personal view, pathetic propaganda, and he should certainly be defeated, but put up a significant fight to help indicate that it's a real problem in society today. I mean, was American History X softened up? Well, not as far as I recall). Of course, the character himself originated as a propaganda character, but I certainly wish and hope the Comics Code melts away and gives us some more down-to-Earth, uhh... totally-unrealistic-superhuman-beings-fighting-each-other story. Spider-Man I always found to be a good example of this (although I stopped reading with Spectacular Spider-Man where Peter Parker got...well, I'm not going to spoil it for you or anything. I think I recall hearing Civil War ending sorta seriously for Parker, as well; I really want to pick that trade up).
- I always saw political correctness as another word for racism, anyway. A true non-racist (or someone who isn't afraid of being dubbed racist) wouldn't even notice the problem out of sheer innocence over the matter. Many, many European countries for instance don't even recognize political correctness, and get confused when an American for instance brings up them having blackface mascots still. That's just my personal opinion, however, and I'm certainly not trying to force it on anyone, just putting it out there. -- Somarinoa (talk) 03:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
He's not Nazi, he's my Brother
[edit]I took out this : "(Note: In George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four, the Thought Police agent O'Brien states that "Big Brother cannot die, for he is the manifestation of The Party, and the Party will never die".)" There are plenty of comic book characters who are the "spirit" or "embodiment" of a particular concept or group, dating back before 1948. DC's Uncle Sam, for instance. So this particular character's latest retconned undeath probably isn't a 1984 reference, just unoriginal writing. Noclevername (talk) 07:51, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Link Alteration
[edit]Just wanted to inform everyone that I fixed a link error on the page, near the bottom of the second-to-last paragraph with the DC Comics section. The page linked to Khandaq - a battle also known as the Battle of the Trench, not Kahndaq - an in-universe fictional country - like it should have. I thought it polite to inform everyone of the change I have made. -- Somarinoa (talk) 03:20, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
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